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[edit] Indonesia

Are you really on wikibreak?? he he. Anyway, what do you think of the Indonesian Civil War => to Overthrow of Sukarno move? ACtually, i think it is an improvement although not ideal. (also i don't think much of that guy's style - he buggered it up and left a bit of a mess). Maybe "Downfall of Sukarno" is better? But i admit i had never heard of it referred to as a Civil War. Also, what do you think of the last few days' changes to Indonesia? There have been quite a few. A new section on Natural History. It's currently within Geography as I think there is a definite relationship between them (which I'd like to strengthen) but Imoeng wants to seperate them cos he thinks it's too long - lol. SOme article have FLora & Fauna, but that is very narrow IMO as it Geography-Ecology-F&F is all linked. Also, i extended the Further Reading section. I saw such a section on another country's page, but forgot which. I wanted to add a description of each book, but Imoeng discouraged me from - he likes it as it. --Merbabu 08:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Java collaboration

hi MichaelJLowe. Starting today, the Indonesia Collaboration is Java. Come along and help make this a page worthy of the world’s most magnificent island. There’s a suggested to-do list on the the Talk page to which you can add, or just pick a task. All sorts of tasks are required, Images, Citations, Research, Copy Edit, you name it – this important article needs your help!! regards --Merbabu 08:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Religion In Indonesia

Saw your comments - I agree wholeheartedly about the fact that there is a world out there that wasnt "official" ifor most of Indonesian national history - my problem is that my refs are not at hand (still) - there were and probably stil are issues that I think will not "fit" easily into the main article - as I was trying to put in a talk item to merbabu a day or so ago -that my interest is in the "difficult" items that need separate articles from the main generalised entry articles - I mean - having been exxposedd to the ephemeral nature of kejawen groups in central java in the early 90's - or the clues about them - they quite possibly simply are belum cocok with current uindertsandings - I dont know SatuSuro 01:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Mount Tambora is on FAC

Hi, sorry for this spam. If you have some time, then could you please chime in FAC? Thanks. — Indon (reply) — 16:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Michael. I was trying to update the FAC to reply your comments, but you've changed it support. ;-) — Indon (reply) — 11:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesian Chinese vs Chinese Indonesian

Hi -- regarding your recent edits on Overseas Chinese etc., pls see Wikipedia:Redirect#Don't fix links to redirects that aren't broken (unless it's a redirect from a misspelling, an incorrect or offensive term, etc.). In this case, both terms "Chinese Indonesian" and "Indonesian Chinese" are widely used and there's no reason to say one is more correct than the other. Thanks! cab 00:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Also of interest, see Talk:Malaysian Chinese/Move debate. That didn't come to consensus on much, but one thing to note is that both nationality followed by ethnicity (e.g. British Chinese) and ethnicity followed by nationality (e.g. Chinese American) are grammatically correct in English. There's no rule that says one must follow the other, contrary to what has been asserted (without citation) on Talk:Chinese Indonesian. cab 00:56, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
So how exactly are "Indonesian Chinese" or "Malaysian Chinese" grammatically incorrect? cab 01:16, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesian architecture

The traditional housing section was fun cos there were too many examples from all over Indonesia to cite. But, as I research the religious and colonial sections, I realise a Java focus would have been better. Oh, well - it's still a good place to start. I am sure Indonesian architecture is esoteric enough for most punters! --Merbabu 14:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Candi

Fair enough, It'll be a cat fight when I start getting nit-picking with some parts anyways(heheh) enjoy! I love the absent notes on your page and your heavy editing at same time - reminds me of the Douglas Adams thing about Zarniwoop he's off on an interstellar trip... yes he _is_ in his office SatuSuro 15:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture

Well, let's be parochial then!  ;-) Nice work Candi - it's great. What do you suggest? Maybe expand the opening section, and then slowly create the "child articles"? --Merbabu 15:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geographically challenged tourist brochures and editors etc etc

Prpls produce some of the crppiest maps of java with so many mistajkes - ten years ago I went to great length to explain to them - their checkers couldnt give a dam - they more or less replied with slartibartfast (douglas adams again) nonchalance (who liked his norwegian fjords) that they were pleased with the rivers - after I had pointed out that their roads in the bantul area were impossible! So wrong locations/directions/ and fifty year old railway lines long gone all recurr like anything in almost all maps and guide books - I've long given up taking any of the publishers on about such stuff. As for candi - if they dont show up on a google or clusty check - they're out! IMHO regardless. As for merbabus suggestion - I would be very wary avout child articles for some individual candi - I think it'd be much wiser doing clusters of some as there simply isnt enough to create more than a stub anyway. Oh well, two bobs worth for today SatuSuro 09:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

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