Talk:J.P. Stevens High School

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Contents 1 Hey 2 Well... 3 History 4 Improv Club 5 Students 6 NPOV 7 Name 8 Correction needed?

[edit] Hey

Shout out to 09 sophmores WOOT!

[edit] Well...

Looks like some students/teachers have discovered this page. 8)

Unfortunantely, they're not Wikipedians, so some of the edits are of dubious quality. I loathe to revert them however, so let's see how it turns out, and then refactor, hmm? — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 01:02, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

• Hopefully they'll read the WPSchools thing at the top, and remember that information has to be neutral and verifiable... who knows, maybe some of them will turn into regular wikipedians. Kappa 01:19, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

• Is the WPSchools thing supposed to be on the talk page? Isn't it supposed to be on the article itself? AndyZ 17:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, if you were surfing Wikipedia, and you saw this huge, informative, not important sign on the article, there'd be something wrong right? Ideally, all templates would go on talk pages, but stuff like {{npov}} need to be on the article to get attention. — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 21:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I made an error while reading the template. I read the line "You can discuss the Project at its talk page." incorrectly somehow and thought the talk page referred to the talk page of this article, not the talk page for the Wikiprojects page.AndyZ 22:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] History

I was wondering, should the names of the graduates be included in the History section of the article? AndyZ 22:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

All graduates? — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 21:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I mean, do the graduates belong in the History section? They seem kind of irrelevant there (even though I just realized I moved them there myself). Should a new section be created called Notable Graduates or something? AndyZ 22:09, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

They probably don't deserve their own section. I think they're fine as is. — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 22:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

The paragraph about all the JPS students going to Edison High in 1994 never happened. I tried to delete it, but somebody just put it right back. ---Rick —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.136.198.8 (talk • contribs) .

Likely, Metros thought the removal was vandalism (because you didn't give any edit summary with it). I'll do some quick asking around, and then remove it on grounds that it is unsourced. — Ambush Commander^(Talk) 22:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Precisely why I deleted it. I saw it as someone just deleting it. Someone else deleted it awhile back and it was restored for being an unexplained delete. There was a gas pipeline fire in 1994 that burned some townhouses in Edison in the vincinity of the school, so it can be feasibly thought that this double-session system could have occured.--Metros232 03:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Can a source be found for that (outside of the Edison, New Jersey article?) The fire did occur- see this pdf report. I find it unlikely that all of the students moved from JPS to EHS- but I guess its possible. AndyZ 14:17, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

After doing a little more research, it does not seem feasible that JP Stevens would close for several reasons, most of which being the proximity of the schools--Edison being closer to the blast than JP Stevens. The reverse would be more likely: Edison High going to JP Stevens. According to this source [1] Edison High was used as a shelter and staging area right after the explosion (it mentions the school was closed because 1,200 displaced residents were living there, though it does not really mention how long they stayed). Here's some awe-strucking photos of the damage [2].--Metros232 16:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I was a senior at JPS when the explosion happened. I lived about 1/10th a mile from JPS when the explosion went off and I thought an airplane had crashed across the street - yet it was several miles away. As I remember it, the next morning there was a question as to whether school started at regular time or there would be a delayed start. Most students and teachers were so excited to talk about and get news on the fire that they were in the school by the regular start time. I remember spending several hours in the cafeteria that morning just getting snippets of news about what happened. It was effectively a lost day of school. But that was it. People that lived in the immediate area of the explosion would have attended JPS, not Edison High. --Rick

I think Rick and Metros are right that students in the area of the fire would have attended JPS. Also, neither JPS nor EHS were located anywhere near the fire. Durham Woods is located here (see map). I recommend deleting the text about the EHS students going to JP. Wl219 05:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

If I delete this section again, is somebody going to come along and just put it back in? I was there at the time. I was a student at the school. No students from EHS came to JPS. No students from JPS went to EHS. The fire occurred. There was major damage around the area and it was JPS students that lived in the immediate area of the explosion. It was a major topic of discussion for about a week. The information contained here is wrong. --Rick

[edit] Improv Club

Can anyone assert a valid reason as to why the Improv Club stands alone in this article? I don't see anything notable about it. I could easily write a section like that on JP Stevens' FBLA chapter, so I don't see why it needs its own section. Thoughts?--Metros232 05:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Apparently members of the improv club are ardent about including the section, and nobody really bothers to remove it or change it anyway since there isn't much reason to delete it. I guess we should keep it- there's no sense in removing it, though it would be best if some of the more important club descriptions could be added. AndyZ 17:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

The troupe has been awarded many titles over the past years, being named the best improv troupe in the state of New Jersey by the NJ Thespian Society in 2005. Request to bring back the section? -Chris Polansky

I would suggest reinstating it, and then citing an online source that says so. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 22:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Should we create a section just for sports/club/academic awards? Wl219 05:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's a bit of a tricky issue. If the award has a Wikipedia article, I think it'd be notable enough for inclusion, but be careful not to list every single one. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 23:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Students

What is the dispute with the demographics? I've noticed in the page history that the Asian-American population at the school has changed many times back and forth from 56% to 76%. I haven't heard much about the school since I graduated two years ago, but I think 76% is a bit far-fetched, if my memory serves me right.

If someone could find a reputable source, we could resolve the dispute, but it's proven... difficult (the report card for this school doesn't mention demographics, and most info would probably be on paper). — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 14:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

NCES data for J.P. Stevens High School shows 1,027 As-Ams out of a populations of 2,160 in the 2003-04 School year, just about 48% of the population. Unless someone has a sourced number that is more current... Alansohn 05:24, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

"JPS has been known as an excellent high school"

Is this verbatim how it's known? Or is this bias marketing? IMHO it's bias towards the school for marketing purposes.

More like JPS is among the top 50 schools in NJ. — Edward Z. Yang^(Talk) 03:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

The school was named for John P. Stevens, who had been President of the Edison Board of Education. His name is on the dedication plaque at the entrance to Edison High. It has nothing to do with any of the more familiar men named John P. Stevens.

If you can show a definitive source for the school being named for the BOE guy, go ahead and change it in the article. I've put up a {{fact}} tag for now, since (speaking as a JPS grad) the textile guy story is currently the most widely held history. Wl219 20:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correction needed?

An IP added this to the article today:

Correction: Originally J. P. S. contained grades 9 through 12. In 1993, with the opening of Woodrow Wilson Junior High (which I attended in its inaugural year), the system changed from 2-year to 3-year Junior Highs, and from 4-year to 3-year High Schools. - Bill Stella

I took it out and placed it here. If anyone can provide a reliable source for this, feel free to make the appropriate changes. Metros232 16:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)