User talk:Greenman

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Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

Thanks maveric! I like the concept. Lots of vandals around from the looks of it, but it seems the builders are staying ahead.

Greenman is presented this Africa Award for his excellent contributions to Africa-related articles, particularly his thorough work on South Africa-related coverage. Presented by Jcw69 18:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC) from the Africa-related regional notice board

Sorry about that last edit; I mistook you for one of the other persons who posted to the "list of philosophers" discussion page. Michael Hardy 01:55, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about Orlando Pirates Football Club. I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have been. :-) Evercat 02:39, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Please see Talk:South Africa. Census data from 1991 (latest available) states that Cape Town is the largest city in South Africa. WhisperToMe 04:32, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV is a good thing

Please get the lingo right; NPOV is not something to remove from an article. :) --mav 01:49, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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Um, yes, thanks! (POV - NPOV - What's an N between friends, especially at 4 in the morning?!) Greenman

• Hi. I've written an article on Oliver Tambo but it may not (probably won't) count as a decent one ;). Secretlondon 16:12, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Secretlondon 20:52, Jan 31, 2004 (UTC)

Greenman, thanks for finally debunking the Mohammed Mandela fiction. It's finally good to positively expose the anon as a vandal. Fuzheado 23:24, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Keeping history.

Please contact a sysop to delete Patricia de Lille, and rename the old Patricia De Lille article, with it's history. Simply doing a cut/paste deletes all the article's history, compare [1] with [2]. - Jeandré, 2004-04-25t15:51z

[edit] Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine

Thank you for deciding to participate in the Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine.

To simplify the communication process, I strongly suggest that you should add the announcement project page on alternative medicine to your watchlist. This is the only project page that you really need to keep on your watchlist. This is where the open tasks needed to be done in our project will be announced.

Rather than correspond individually to each participant, I will simply update this one project announcement page. The respective talk page will be used for private announcements, such as requests for participating in VfDs, Quickpolls, and Comments. It is way too time consuming to try to communicate individually with everybody in this place. So, this concept should make it quite easy to notify a large block of people about important CAM issues. So, pass the word along to your friends. The more people we get to add our announcement page to their watchlist, the more effective this announcement page concept will become.

For, the time being I would advise that you simply read through the various project pages and ask questions and make comments or suggestions on what we should change.

Feel free to write about the African history of alternative medicine in history of alternative medicine and please add any forms of African alternative medicine to our respective articles. I am really in the dark about what is going on in Africa. -- John Gohde, aka Mr-Natural-Health 15:58, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

Hi Greenman, and welcome to the Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine! heidimo 15:44, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Hi there. I've made some changes to the Alternative Medicine Wikiproject. As a participant, you may want to have a look at the page and at its talk page. -- ALargeElk | Talk 14:06, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup.

Hi G, have a look at http://wikipedia.meetup.com/38/ if you're interested in joining a Cape Town Wikipedia meetup. -- Jeandré, 2004-09-11t21:20z

[edit] South African Collaboration of the Week!

Hello, this is just a brief, friendly announcement to let you know that there is now a South African Collaboration of the Week where we vote every two weeks to select an article about South Africa that is either a stub or nonexistent and attempt make it featured article quality by the end of the week. Your comments, voting, and participation would be very welcome! PZFUN 17:26, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] South African Politics

Hello, I thought as a fellow South African that you would be interested in trying to rectify the dire situation of the amount of information of the politics of South Africa. All the articles that need help can be found on the Politics of South Africa page. Thank you! Páll 07:54, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Project on Alternative Medicine

Your user page still states that you are a registered participant of Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative_Medicine. I would like to discuss with you where we can go with this project in the future. John Gohde 19:22, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stop living in the past!

Glad to see you've started on suburbs of cape town. But your note on my page said 2004 not 2005 :) MDCore 09:50, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Time flies when you're having fun :) Greenman 17 Feb 2005

[edit] Request

I've started South African poetry. I plan to finish the headings I already have there. When I finish, could I have ψ2 of the WikiCredits you offered for the page? --Ryan! | Talk 01:09, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Hello. I came up with the poets that are mentioned by hunting around on Google. The external link I give was a real godsend. In sooth, I know very little about Sanskrit and Malagasy; however, I do have a friend who is familiar with the language. With the latter, I picked up a lot from researching for the mg Wikipedia. As for Latin, I have studied a lot of different aspects of the language and know a thing or two. My whole basis for editing on non-English Wikipedias is that I absolutely love languages, particularly historical and comparative linguistics. I am considering careers that such knowledge would benefit. I was not necessarily interested in South African poetry, but I thought that it was sad for that request to be there for so long. When I first came to Wikipedia, I did mainly stick to articles that I knew a bit about. But as I became a more skilled user, I came to realize that if a topic could be reasonably presented as an article, I did not need to have extensive knowledge on the subject. I hope that makes sense. As for my political persuasion, I have a lot of beliefs that I have inherited, you might say, and some that I've drawn my own conclusions about. I'm not sure how much you know about American political divisions (no offense), but I am rather anti-partisan; that is, I'm not afraid to work with others. On foreign matters and internal business, I am mostly strictly right-of-center, but on social issues, I am a bit more moderate. One of my biggest fears is too much government. I am very optimistic about this timeline and life in general, but I can have a critical eye when it comes to humanity's blunders and fringes. I am open to answer any more questions; it was very nice meeting you. Good day, and peace profound, Ryan! | Talk 14:35, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

Wonderful to meet you Ryan! Wikipedia, and the impacts the Open Content, Open Source etc models are having on the world fascinate me, and it's amazing to meet a 16-year-old Alaskan, writing an article about South African poetry, who is experimenting with Malagasy, Sanskrit and Latin. I'm fairly aware of US politics, seeing as decisions made there do tend to reverbrate further than those made in the hallowed halls of our own parliament :) I can appreciate your position. Stated as it is in your user page it did seem a bit stark and rigid (making me suspect you of the selfsame partisanism you reject), but your explanation shows much more awareness than that. Peace profound indeed! Greenman 9 March 2005

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your comments at Talk:Bantu. I'm a little ashamed now that I uploaded the map in the first place. Especially since I created the African language maps myself (which are based on much more accurate sources) I should've noticed the differences between them. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm on the lookout for better and more recent sources. — mark ✎ 13:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good luck with the search :) -- Greenman 14 June 2005

[edit] IDRIVE

You showed support for This week's Improvement Drive. This week Lhasa was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help…

[edit] African COTW

[edit] Thank you for that

Hey, Greenman and fellow Capetonian! Thanks for adding the templates to the two asterix articles I authored, improving them, they needed it. Thanks again. Banes 16:58, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IDRIVE

subst:==You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:AID winner==

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive. This week {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

[edit] Support

Hi Greenman, I have been nominated as an administrator. Please could you click to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship and vote. I would kindly appreciate your support. Thank you --Jcw69 18:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rotten luck

Why are all the Cape Tonians on here males? I had had aspirations to turn this into an online dating service. Just rotten luck I guess (sigh)--Xiphon 08:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Meet up

I'm going to be back in South Africa from 26 December to 25 January. Would be great to meet up with all my fellow South African editors that I have been working with from afar. Want to try to arrange a meet-up of some sorts? Páll ^{(Die pienk olifant)} 08:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] your blog

It's very interesting, and others would probably think so too... so you might want to fix the link to it on your user page... ←Hob 18:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please vote

Hi, if you have not yet done so, we could sure use your input on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dewet. Thanks! Elf-friend 10:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The South African Bush Telegraph

The South African Bush Telegraph has launched. If you interested please go to ... Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Bush Telegraph. Regards, --Jcw69 15:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Springboks

I think you might have been mostly correct in what you said. There are different versions of the story but I looked it up in 'Rugby and all that' and it gives the best explanation and one that best explains the different accounts.

a) Roos did come up with the name, following a discussion with the tour managers b) The Daily Mail were the first to use the Anglicised form c) The blazers did have a springbok on the pocket but they were not ordered until after the Mail had used the name.

No mention of Zoos though. I think you might be wrong about this because it is very similar to the myth surrounding the name 'Wallabies'.

If you don't do so I will alter the article accordingly tomorrow.GordyB 21:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cape Town FAC

Well, it's done. I listed Cape Town as a featured article candidate. Take a look on its FAC page and have a vote. Thanks! Páll ^{(Die pienk olifant)} 06:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Namibia rugby

Hi Greenman, I notice that you proposed a merger for Namibia national rugby union team and Rugby union in Namibia. I though I just explain that the Rugby union in X articles deal with popularity, demographics, general history, as well as overviews of domestic and international competitions, which a lot of, is not appropriate in the national team's article, althoughI do understand why you propposed it, as there is little info there yet, but it will be expanded in time, for example, Rugby union in Fiji, or Rugby union in New Zealand. Anyway, judging from your talk, you have an interest in rugby, so I'm not sure if you know about it or not, but you should definantly join Wikiproject:Rugby union. Cheers. Cvene64 02:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm happy enough to go along with this. Greenman 07:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Feeding trolls

Haha, I've never heard that expression before - and there's an article on it nogal! :) I see you're also keen to get the SA language versions of wikipedia up and running? Do you know any Xhosa? I'm trying to work on a few Zulu articles at zu.wiki but my Zulu is abysmal! *sigh* Joziboy 20:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sadly I suspect my Xhosa is worse than your Zulu - I wouldn't dare attempt an article on xh.wikipedia :) Greenman 20:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Yup, you're just narcissistic :) I don't know - it just makes sense to leave them on each other's profiles so the person's notified when they log in. Yeah, my Xhosa isn't really at level one either - kinda 0.5 :) I can just understand it sometimes because I've been teaching myself Zulu and they're quite similar. What country templates are you talking about? The infoboxes? Joziboy 07:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah okay I tried to copy the language infoboxes into zu.wiki but apparently the simple looking formula has a trillion formulas behind it, none of which exist in that wikipedia *sigh*. It's time to rally up some native speakers of Zulu and Xhosa to the cause! Joziboy 08:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Your vote please

Hi Greenman - Please vote on the proposed name change of the 'South African farmer murders' page. The straw poll is here. Please also pass this message on to others you think would be interested. Thank you! Cheers, Jason Lionchow - Talk 21:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Rugby Union Assessment

Hi, thanks for joining our assessment team. As you can probably tell a lot has been done to bring the assessment area up to standard recently. I've noticed from the assessment log that you have been assessing some articles which is great. However some of your ratings have not been appropriate. For example All Blacks vs Springboks. This article would be considered start class rather then B class. Fiji national rugby union team is an example of a B-class article, whereas 1971 Springbok tour would be an example of a Start-class article. The criteria for ratings are determined by WP:1.0 so we can't change them, but if you'd like to dicuss this then please do. Thanks. - Shudda ^talk 23:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PCDAAS

If you require help with article, particularly the POV edits of Messenger2010, please let me know. I strongly beleive this user is also adding POV edits to the Biological Value article as an anonymous user (see the talk page - sounds familar doesn't it?). I've posted lots of great resources that help support PCDAAS against this supression of information. Yankees76 00:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I've also noticed that you were in a discussion with two users on the Soybean talk page discussing wether or not soy was a complete protein or not. (you're correct by the way) I might interest you to know that I've contacted an admin because of this suspicous sockpuppet-like behaviour. You can see my case against Messenger2010 here [3]. Your input would be valued. Yankees76 01:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)