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[recensere] Start of discussion

Perhaps we should begin discussion of what to put up next month. What is the customary means of deciding this question on other wikis anyway? --Iustinus 23:21 feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

I believe the practice on en: for the daily article is to use (whether at random or by lot I'm not sure) a Featured Article that has not already been so featured. (Also, I think it has to have at least one picture, which can go on the front page, but I don't know if any article could reach Featured status without images anyway.) I don't think there's been enough "brilliant prose" on la: yet to inspire the creation of a category for featured articles from which to draw our page of the month from though. —Myces Tiberinus 05:22 feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

OK, I'll make some nominations and see if that gets a response. Off hand I can think of only a couple suitable pages, and all of them have problems:

  1. Ius Romanum, Thomas Rüfner's magnum opus. The main problem with this one is that I'm not happy with the picture. Dr. Rüfner might be able to provide us with something better, but he's usually too busy to work here.
  2. Leivus Erici filius. The problem with this one is that I wrote it, and humility constrains me to vote against it ;)
  3. Nicolaus Cazantzaces. This article combines the problems of the other two: I wrote it, and it doesn't have a picture.

There are other worthy articles out there, especially among Myces' "translation of the week" an biological contributions. Please suggest your favorites. --Iustinus 20:33 feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

[recensere] Ius Romanum

Since no one has expressed an oppinion on this subject for half a year, and since Thomas Rüfner has uploaded an appropriate illustration, I am going to change the Page of the Month to Ius Romanum. If anyone disagrees, bring it up here (but I wish you would have done so a few months ago!). Now would be a good time to start looking for other good articles too. --Iustinus 20:19 iun 2, 2005 (UTC)

[recensere] Pagina Iulii Mensis

Candidates for next month's Pagina Mensis. Please post your own suggestions. --Iustinus 01:10 iun 6, 2005 (UTC)

  1. Leivus Erici filius. Problems: I wrote it.
  2. Nicolaus Cazantzaces. Problems: I wrote it, no good picture.
  3. Joannes Hildebrandus Withofius. Problems: Needs to be encyclopedified (See the disputatio page for details).
  4. Anna (regina Anglica). Problems: needs some minor editing. We may want to avoid articles on English history for a while, after the whole Catharina Aragonensis debacle ;)
  5. Ratisbona.
  6. L. Annaeus Seneca minor.
  7. C. Iulius Caesar.


We're already on July so I'll vote for Ratisbona. I guess the other articles deserve to be "Pagina mensis" too (except Withofius, which is not ready yet), so I think we should use this same list in the next month. --Mafrius 13:18 iul 13, 2005 (UTC)

[recensere] Pagina Decembris Mensis

I'm still hoping to see a new pagina mensis, so I thought I'd start the ball rolling again for suggestions: --Tbook 18:16, 29 Novembris 2005 (UTC)

I like the first three, would be happy to see any of them on the main page. Nicolaus 01:06, 21 Decembris 2005 (UTC)

Asteroides is a very well written article. It passes the size, length, and picture requirement. --Freiberg 01:52, 16 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] suggestion

We may want to change this to 'featured article' ('lemma egregium'?) or somesuch, given the violence we are doing to the word 'mensis' here. —Myces Tiberinus 16:10, 21 Decembris 2005 (UTC)

You know we now have several nominees, but few votes. The number of nominees though suggests that perhaps a "featured" category, like on the ENglish wikipedia, might now be plausible. We could take steps to encourage people to pay special attention to articles in that category, make lots of corrections, edits, and additions. This might facilitate getting such pages to pagina cuiusdam temporis spatii quality. --Iustinus 23:27, 21 Decembris 2005 (UTC)

As far as I am concerned, any of the proposed articles would be fine - perhaps we could just take all the articles mentioned on this talk page, put them in a list, and run them one at a time for a month (or less, if there are a lot). A featured category wouldn't hurt, but we would still need someone to change the page. Since there doesn't seem to be much interest in voting for pages, I would propose that we pick one person (Iustinus?) and let him select the articles. Later on, if there is more interest, (and more active Latin wikipedians), perhaps a more formal system would work, but having one reasonable person should work smoothly enough, I think. --Tbook 18:43, 1 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] monthly

Ok, it should be set to automatically update, by month, out of all the articles suggested here so far. If anyone cares to start proposing articles now for December and onwards, well, you have eleven months to speak up. :p —Myces Tiberinus 21:53, 9 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] List of monthly pages

Here a list of the subpages ... --Roland2 12:08, 14 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

You can see the current content of the subpages named by month. Seems like a default setting which can be discussed but will even work in case nobody cares about future paginae(as?) menses. ;-) --Roland2 23:50, 14 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that is the theory, it should automatically change according to the current month. And if no new articles are added for the future it will just repeat... Better, I suppose, for the same page to be page of the month the same month every year than to for the same page to be page of the month for six or seven months at a time ;) But hopefully we will be able to come up with more articles to feature. —Myces Tiberinus 02:54, 15 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] 2004

  1. Carolus Marx

[recensere] 2005

  1. Ian-Mai - Catharina Aragonensis
  2. Iun-Dec - Ius Romanum

[recensere] 2006

  1. Formula:PaginaMensis/Ianuarii - Leivus Erici filius
  2. Formula:PaginaMensis/Februarii - Bomba atomica
  3. Formula:PaginaMensis/Martii - Ratisbona
  4. Formula:PaginaMensis/Aprilis - Ecclesia Catholica
  5. Formula:PaginaMensis/Maii - Nicolaus Cazantzaces
  6. Formula:PaginaMensis/Iunii - Theoria Chordarum
  7. Formula:PaginaMensis/Iulii - Anna Britanniae Regina
  8. Formula:PaginaMensis/Augusti - Bellum Peloponnesiacum
  9. Formula:PaginaMensis/Septembris - L. Annaeus Seneca minor
  10. Formula:PaginaMensis/Octobris - C. Iulius Caesar
  11. Formula:PaginaMensis/Novembris - Ioannes Hildebrandus Withofius
  12. Formula:PaginaMensis/DecembrisTigris

[recensere] Pagina Decembris Mensis (redux)

Asteroides is a very well written article. It passes the size, length, and picture requirement. --Freiberg 01:52, 16 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

Tigris is getting to the point where it HAS to be nominated ;) --Iustinus 07:52, 18 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)

Tigris mihi placeret, cum imagine illinc indicata sub titulo "Subspecies" Habemus et omnes menses 2007 pro articulis pluribus. Et si plus habemus articulos pulchros quam menses, possimus etiam Paginam Hebdomodae facere. --Tbook 16:23, 18 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)
I think that tigris is the article for pagina mensis/demcembris. --Misericordia 13:40, 23 Februarii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] 2007

[recensere] Paginae Nominatae

Things move slowly here, so we may as well start ahead of time. Still on the table is asteroides, which can probably go for January if there are no objections. Hopefully the Project:Collaboratio hebdomadalis will be able to produce some quality articles. —Myces Tiberinus 03:41, 24 Martii 2006 (UTC)

I think we should move towards pagina "fortnight" if not a pagina hedomadis. We have a bunch of qualities articles apud nos, and we are getting bigger all the time. We definitely have enough well formed content that we can increase the frequency with which we display featured articles on our front page. What are cogitationes?--Ioshus Rocchio 04:46, 7 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)

I suggest we ask for candidates and see how big the pool is: if we get 12 or 15 good ones, stick with pagina mensis - if 30, pagina "fortnight" if 80, pagina hebdomadae --Tbook 20:53, 7 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)

I would like to propose Usor:Iustinus's Imperium Cossanum for a 2007 Pagina Mensis. It is one of our better pages on an interesting subject. Also Marc Mage's Pericles and Tuor's Queen Ann --Tbook 19:17, 10 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)
Euge! Res de Imperio Cossano maxime mihi placet. Ego quoque Tbook-tori contso. Sicagum autem proba res est. Sed esse iudicem mihi non liceat. Sinister Petrus 20:08, 11 Iulii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] proposed pages

we should start finding a number of good articles for next year's paginae menses – let us collect ideas!

Here is a number of pages that have been proposed above, please add others and discuss the articles suggested here! If we have about 15 to 18 good suggestions, we can work out some order for next year's months. --UV 01:14, 2 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

Quite right UV. Let's hop on this. I think we could search for curiosities, too. Our paginae mensis need not always be about people or places. We can have more unusual topics to demonstrate the breadth of information on here.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
I support all pages (they are just 11 now) but I especially like the curious articles and the articles about "modern" topics. --Rolandus 20:36, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
Yes, we should look for curiosities and articles about hot topics of the 20th and 21st century. --UV 23:49, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Asteroides
    proposed above by Freiberg 01:52, 16 Ianuarii 2006 (UTC)
    Support. --UV 01:14, 2 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Support. --Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Imperium Cossanum
    proposed above by Tbook 19:17, 10 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)
    supported above by Sinister Petrus 20:08, 11 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
    Support. --UV 01:14, 2 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Pericles
    proposed above by Tbook 19:17, 10 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)
    Support.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Sicagum
    proposed above by Sinister Petrus 20:08, 11 Iulii 2006 (UTC)
  • Berolinum
    (meae recentes multae mutationes ad hanc paginam in primis ad technicalia modo spectabant.) --Alex1011 21:33, 4 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Support.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Stephanus Spielberg
    proposed by Alex1011 21:33, 4 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Pong cervisiale
    I do not encourage alcohol abuse, but I think this article is really funny. --UV 23:49, 9 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Abuse schmabuse! =]. I like the idea of this article as a pagina mensis because it shows that we write about interesting/popular stuff here, too, not just run-of-the-mill articles.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Fistula nicotiana
    and another thing that I do not condone, but the article is nice. --UV 23:49, 9 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Right, I don't condone this at all, but it could certainly deserve some expansion given the impact cigarettes have had in history, plus it opens up the door for pages about addictions and illnesses.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • SCDI
    Long article. --UV 23:49, 9 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Support.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Moretum
    good food. --UV 23:49, 9 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Support.--Ioshus (disp) 18:48, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Silvester II
    Very good start by Massimo Macconi, can still be expanded a bit. --UV 23:49, 9 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • Benedictus XVI
    Plenty of text and a decent enough article. Alexanderr 05:31, 17 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Weak support: The article is certainly very good, nevertheless I would prefer more articles about topics that are not related to the two themes one would expect on a Latin wikipedia: Ancient Rome and the Roman Catholic Church. (I know, this contradicts a bit the fact that I myself proposed Silvester II just above, but Silvester II is not only known for his theological qualities.) Greetings, --UV 22:07, 17 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
    Oppose. Both popes, for my part. If we had a pagina hebdomadis, or pagina diei, it would be different, but a month is a long time. As UV said, I think it's a kind of a cliche to have Ancient Rome and the Catholic Church as topics on a Latin wikipedia. I'm not saying they aren't good articles, or that they aren't important. I'm just saying we can show we can write about other topics.--Ioshus (disp) 23:07, 17 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
  • E=mc²
    proposed by Ioshus 00:21, 18 Decembris 2006
  • Infinitas
    proposed by Ioshus 00:21, 18 Decembris 2006
    Support. --UV 00:16, 19 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] selected pages

  1. {{PaginaMensis/Ianuarii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  2. {{PaginaMensis/Februarii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  3. {{PaginaMensis/Martii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  4. {{PaginaMensis/Aprilis 2007}} → [[ ]]
  5. {{PaginaMensis/Maii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  6. {{PaginaMensis/Iunii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  7. {{PaginaMensis/Iulii 2007}} → [[ ]]
  8. {{PaginaMensis/Augusti 2007}} → [[ ]]
  9. {{PaginaMensis/Septembris 2007}} → [[ ]]
  10. {{PaginaMensis/Octobris 2007}} → [[ ]]
  11. {{PaginaMensis/Novembris 2007}} → [[ ]]
  12. {{PaginaMensis/Decembris 2007}} → [[ ]]

[recensere] Ecclesia catholica

Salvete : credo errores esse : omnes considerant et "mantineo" est verbum quod existit Italice et gallice sed non latine ( servare ? )--Marc mage 00:15, 7 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)

Puto omnes esse in casu obiectivo - ecclesia omnes considerat; sed oportet mantineo cum servare refacere, sicut fecisti in pagina Ecclesia Catholica - ita feci. --Tbook 20:51, 7 Aprilis 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] String Theory Picture

Can we replace the picture for the String Theory article (currently up)? It looks really naff up on the Main Page. There are some nice images on the English article, but I don't know if our one covers the same material. Daniel () 15:03, 1 Iunii 2006 (UTC)

[recensere] april fool's

Anyone think we should have an april fool's page?--Ioshus (disp) 19:00, 16 Decembris 2006 (UTC)

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