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Contents 1 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Robbenchelsea.jpg) 2 Leeds United Squad Injuries 3 Image:Drogbachelsea.jpg listed for deletion 4 Order Of Squad templates on players pages 5 James Tomkins 6 Image:60636.jpg listed for deletion 7 Expansion of WP:A-League 8 Kasper Schmeichel 9 Pointless edits 10 Grammar 11 Arsenal reserve players in first team squad 12 Fran Merida 13 Image tagging for Image:BillyMcEwanred.jpg 14 Ian Holloway 15 Image:Obichelsea.jpg 16 0 template 17 Indent 18 Leeds United Squad Injuries AGAIN 19 My user page

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Robbenchelsea.jpg)

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[edit] Leeds United Squad Injuries

Can I ask you to stop removing the injuries from the current squad section on the Leeds United page. According to this I "... can add any related info.... " to this and injuries are relevant as to whether they can play at the present time or not. There is no mention as to anything this cannot be used for. I could understand your removal of the information if I had caused vandalism yet this information is legitimate and relevant to their current squad status. --Chappy84 12:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Drogbachelsea.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Order Of Squad templates on players pages

Hi, I've looked at both this and this yet I can find nothing even on the subject of why country squad templates should come above club squad templates on player pages as you keep on altering these to. Surely the squad that they are currently part of should be at the top of the list which most of the time means the club template. This is especially relevant with Gary Kelly and Neil Sullivan as neither will be members of their national squads again yet are current members of the Leeds squad. Surely people are more likely going to the pages for club info than national team in previous competitions info. The only time I can see reason for the national template to be above the club one is when a competition such as this years world cup is currently taking place. --Chappy84 10:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

It is a general thing for national templates to come above. Look at all other World Cup players, they mostly have the national template above. -- Mattythewhite 14:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Mattythewhite, I completely agree with Chappy84 on this, as I've mentioned to you before... although you ignored me last time. The reason why all other WC players have national templates above them is because you pedantically edit the articles to make that the case. It makes far more sense to have the squad templates in chronological order, with the most recent at the top... with "current" templates being most recent of all. Robwingfield ^(talk) 15:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh.. I honestly think the older templates should be on top, going down in chronological order that way. -- Mattythewhite 15:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Obviously... but why? Surely the most recent squad should be the first presented... then if the reader wants to look at more historic information, they can scroll down. Maybe it's worth doing some sort of poll at the WikiProject on Football so that's it's a community decision, rather than just a three way thing. Robwingfield ^(talk) 23:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I think thats a good idea. -- Mattythewhite 06:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Tomkins

Does exist, and does indeed have Squad Number 30. http://www.kumb.com/0506_squad.php?id=James%20Tomkins . Unfortunately the official website is about as much use as a chocolate teapot and is notorious for not including any number of details (most notably the complete absence of the entire Reserve side). If you contact the club, or read the West Ham fanzine, they will inform (and show) the full list of registered players and their numbers, of which Tomkins is one. The West Ham page specifically says "Squad" and does not define whether that is first team or otherwise (or else why would Stech be included). It's unhelpful to simply state "rv vandalism" when amending something that isn't a malicious edit, or "vandalism".--Koncorde 13:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:60636.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Expansion of WP:A-League

Hi Mattythewhite,

Just thought I'd let you know there is currently a proposal to expand WikiProject A-League to include all areas of football/soccer in Australia, including the NSL, A-League, Socceroos, state leagues and more. A more formal proposal page can be found here. Please indicate whether you support the idea or not at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject A-League, and also add your 2c about what the new project should be called. Cheers! – AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 04:16, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kasper Schmeichel

A quick note about your edit to Manchester City F.C. - Kasper Schmeichel was recalled from his loan last week due to injuries to both Nicky Weaver and Andreas Isaksson; he was on the bench on Saturday. Oldelpaso 17:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry.. thats one thing about me, I generally don't assume good faith... 18:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pointless edits

Again, please stop making pointless edits, like this and this. Spacing out content in an article is a perfectly valid thing to do in order to see the different types of content, in this case, separating category tags from stub tags. I assume you agree that the edits were pointless as again you failed to make edit summaries, something else that's frowned upon. Surely you have better things to do with your time? Why not do something constructive instead? Robwingfield ^(talk) 18:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Adding the word "template" to template calls is quite unnecessary.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  18:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I did it because the links on the template would not show up without the "template"... but now they seem to be. -- Mattythewhite 18:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

This is another. At least it's not vandalism.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  20:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, using my watchlist isn't exactly stalking, but I felt guilty after the last comment, even before your response. Sorry. You do so many edits that you are bound to do the odd one or two now and again that don't find favour. I've normally found your input to be most trustworthy and I made the above comment for the good of everyone - to help you, not to annoy you.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  19:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carl_Dickinson&diff=82836509&oldid=82664646, please tell me you know the difference between a plural and a possessive noun. - Dudesleeper 09:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Err... probably not. --Mattythewhite 11:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well it's about time you did, young mayan! - Dudesleeper 11:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arsenal reserve players in first team squad

Well, I added the new players into the first-team squad in Arsenal F.C. so I think yes. :) My basic rule about including players in the first team squad is this: If the club officially gives them a number and a listing in the squad on their website [1], then Wikipedia should follow suit, which is what I have done. Even if they have not (yet) played a first team game (like O'Ceaurill or Simpson), they still count. That's also been my rule when considering reserve or youth players for AfDs in the past - it's consistent and easily verifiable.

There is actually one exception, which is Jose Antonio Reyes, who is not listed on the Arsenal site, but his transfer status was confirmed as a loan by Real Madrid separately, and that's explained in the footnote attached to his name. Hope this helps, cheers. Qwghlm 15:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wait up - none of the players who you have just created are actually listed in the first-team squad page here. Where have you got the numbers from and why have you created them? Qwghlm 18:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: "if they were to be called up" - Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I would hold off and wait until if/when they actually get called up properly. Qwghlm 18:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes - I said given a number and listed in the first-team squad - which they are not. They have provisional numbers and are only listed on the reserve squad for the moment. None of the four players - Hoyte, Efrem, Barazite and Merida have - been called up even as substitutes for a first-team competitive match, so until they do their first-team squad status is speculative. Qwghlm 18:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I've had a bit of a think and I've decided not to nominate (or renominate) any of them for deletion (yet), but I'll wait until Arsenal's Carling Cup campaign is over - simply because I can't be arsed to recreate them or go through WP:DRV if they do make an appearance this season. But if any of the players you are added don't make the cut I'll nominate them for deletion once the competition is over. Qwghlm 21:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fran Merida

Please do not repost previously-deleted material. This is considered vandalism and can lead to you being blocked from editing for a period of time. (aeropagitica) 22:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It seems that both Merida and Hoyte are being ruthlessly deleted at the moment. I've taken them off the Arsenal squad and nav template for now to prevent further recreation. If you wish to keep reposting them then it is probably a good idea to take them to deletion review, but I fear you won't get a favourable response. I think it would be best to leave it for now and wait until either player has got a proper first-team call-up before doing so. Qwghlm 08:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Ian Holloway

Re inclusion on Template:Plymouth Argyle F.C. Squad. I don't think he is still registered as a player. Perhaps you know better than me. Plymouth Argyle F.C.#Current squad has a note which says he cancelled his registration.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  20:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Obichelsea.jpg

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[edit] 0 template

Thought I'd mention the Template:0, since you update infobox stats a lot. You can use it in infoboxes as an invisible leading zero. Thus

• 100 (50)
• 50 (5)
• 1 (0)

using

* 100 (50)
* {{0}}50 (5)
* {{0}}{{0}}1 (0)

can become

• 100 (50)
• 050 (5)
• 001 (0)

Which looks better, I reckon. Laters. sʟυмɢυм • т • c 20:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

All the footballers listed Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:0 are the ones where I've used the template. I found it when I was using the German wikipedia. I've also started using also using Template:birth date and age in infoboxes.

{{birth date and age|1986|11|1}}

November 1, 1986 (age 20)

since it survived tfd. It calculates people's current age. (Obviously!) sʟυмɢυм • т • c 20:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indent

Me again. I changed your edit to Tom Huddlestone. Normally I don't mind the whole → indenting thing, after all I started doing it, but TH's infobox was far too wide (nearly half the page) before I changed it. I now write 'Loan' after the apps because it doesn't use any extra space, and it is as easy to spot as an indent. Linking of years in generally discouraged, unless part of date formatting. Otherwise, keep up the good work. sʟυмɢυм • т • c 23:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leeds United Squad Injuries AGAIN

Please stop removing the injuries from the current squad section on the Leeds United page. According to this I "... can add any related info.... " to this and injuries are relevant as to whether they can play at the present time or not. There is no mention as to anything this cannot be used for. I could understand your removal of the information if I had caused vandalism yet this information is legitimate and relevant to their current squad status.--Chappy84 16:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My user page

Hi.. I saw you edit my user page. Please don't. -- Mattythewhite 15:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Quite a while ago now, but yes. I was just correcting your typos (which I see you've just reverted back in!)... and there's no WP policy against it... but if you'd rather I didn't, I'm happy to oblige. robwingfield ^«T•C» 16:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)