Talk:X-Men (vol. 2)

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"Others artists, including Igor Kordey and Ethan Van Sciver, often illustrated issues because the series was published semi-bi-weekly"

What, exactly, is semi-bi-weekly? Weekly?

Contents 1 Move 2 Clean up 2.1 Suggestions 2.2 Issuse titles

[edit] Move

I think this page should be moved to X-Men (comic book). Other than the clunky name it has now, I think the change would follow convention. And we can refer X-Men, vol. 1 to uncanny, so moving the page would allow for both volumes to be discussed (i.e. Astonishing X-Men). --Silver lode 00:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Move - per my nom. --Silver lode 00:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

'Move per above. WesleyDodds 07:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The problem with X-Men (comic book) is that it could be seen to refer to a single X-Men comic book. Therefore it would need to be extended to X-Men (comic book series). A further problem is that not only was Uncanny X-Men called The X-Men up until around issue 101, much of the general public wouldn't know what Uncanny X-Men is, so, without the vol. 2 in the name it could be thought to be the main X-Men series, instead of Uncanny. Ths could lead to much confusion, so it would need to be further disambiguated to X-Men (comic book series) (vol. 2) or X-Men (comic book series, vol. 2) which just reeks of ridiculousness compared to the name now. However people may still be confused and want to know what vol. 1 was, so I shall put redirects and a disambig notice to sort that out. --Jamdav86 10:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

But this article is about a single comic book, not the name. Just a simple note saying that Uncanny X-Men was originally just called X-Men is all we need. There's not another comic being labeled as X-Men right now and the one that was has a different name. It's best known as Uncanny X-Men anyways and has been for decades. The volume number is somewhat trival. WesleyDodds 07:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It isn't about a single comic book, it's about a series consisting of nearly 200 comic books. And over half of the franchise's comic books are labelled as X-Men. The key to disambiguation is to remove confusion, and the moves proposed only seek to add confusion. The page X-Men (comic book), if created at all, should be a redirect to List of X-Men comic book series and an explanation should be given for why there are so many different series at that page. --Jamdav86 10:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

While I am still not sure if I agree with you that X-Men (comic book) would create more confusion, I would like to point out if you feel that (comic book) is the wrong way to do things you should bring it up in the Wikiproject so that you can change the way the guidelines say we should create pages. My original thought behind this was to make this page more like Astonishing X-Men which describes each volume of the series (though vol's 1 and 2 are not very long). Should they be split into Astonishing X-Men (vol. 1) etc.? I don't think I will pursue another move though bc it seems no be a non starter of an issue since there aren't that many comments, and since your move is at least an improvement from what it was. --Silver lode 13:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Quite honestly, it doesn't need to be disambiguated any more. Non-comics person types in X-Men, they aren't going to arrive at this page, they'll arrive at X-Men, on which I put a disambig notice to clarify which is the primary X-Men series. Redirected X-Men (comic book) and X-Men (comics) to X-Men in case someone tries to do it that way in the search box. No need to overly disambiguate, otherwise we'll have the whole Daredevil mess again. --Jamdav86 14:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed this article is listed under "Requested moves" on the wikiproject comics Notice Board. Has this discussion reached a point where a survey/vote is appropriate regarding a move or merger? If so, I'll create the vote at the bottom of this talk page (well, or someone else will). Since this article is a tad lengthy and X-Men is more than a tad lengthy, I wanted to check the status before considering move options. -Markeer 13:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

It's fine here really. There's a variety of disambig notices around the relevant articles to remove confusion. --Jamdav86 13:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool. Since you first suggested the move above, I'll move the Notice Board item down to "Completed Move Discussions" (with no consensus to move). Silver lode added the item to the Notice Board so if he objects or wishes for a vote I'll be happy to move it back later. Just trying to clean up the Notice Board a bit. -Markeer 14:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

I think this article needs some massive cleanup. I can work with what is there, but I don't have enough knowledge to fully fix it. Anyone want to help? --Silver lode 00:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

• Add comic series box - done
• Better picture needed for box
• Delete list of issues
• Citations needed everywhere

--Silver lode 19:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Why delete the list of issues, I think you just want to delete because it's too many and if u think it's useless what about the collections?.--hottie 07:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Issuse titles

Is this list of issue titles really necessary? It's enormous, incomplete, and I don't see the need. Bhissong 20:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong

So what if it's big, the collections (trade paperbacks and hard cover collections) are more useless. They are more people who buy the regular issues than the paperbacks/collections.--hottie 14:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

It matters if the it's large because the purpose of a character or comic-based entry is to create an informative yet concise article. Ask just about anyone who does regular edits to comics and comic characters. They'll say the same. I just don't see how listing every single issue title serves any positive purpose for the article. Now, if you think the tpb's shoudn't be there, then that's your perogative, and have the right to delete if you think it's appropriate, within Wiki. standards of editing, and improves the article overall. If this rational still is not satisfying, post it on the comics discussion page and get the opinions of others. Bhissong 15:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong

Blah you're lucky I'm busy because I could put that list back and put the release month, who's in the cover, writer watsoever.--hottie 23:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm lucky? Dude, you can't take things so personally. Silver lode's got a point. If you want to put that much effort into it, think about making it another page and linking it to here. And really, this "Blah you're lucky" stuff is pretty immature. Bhissong 01:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)bhissong

if you do put that much effort into it, i suggest making it its own page ala list of amazing spiderman issues. and have that linked from here. --Silver lode 01:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)