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[edit] Hindustani Spiderman?

I just googled this and would appreciate it if an admin user could do the same as I have found no evidence indicating Khan is going to be a part of this non existent movie.

[edit] Minor Edits

I changed the phrase following the part explaining his continually similar performances as neither did Shahrukh Khan 'silence his detractors' nor was that the main intention for him performing in the movie. It's changed to a more objective tone to raise the quality of the piece.

Shahrukh khan is one of the most pathetically sterotyped ham actors of this generation, his idiosyncrasies and overacting has endeared him to the masses looking for a handicapped hero. Plus taking the psycho roles which suited him perfect in his initial career days , he proved how he is and will always be the greatest ham actors that ever lived.

User Elyaqim added Urdu notation (presumbly the actor's name) to this article. In the context of Indian politics, this is a provocative act -- rather like saying "Shahrukh is a Muslim!" The same user also annotated Aamir Khan and Salman Khan in similar fashion. I have removed the notation:

(شاه رخ خان)

Either we have the name in both Arabic and Devanagari scripts (for which I really see no necessity) or we have neither.

Zora 01:54, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You did the right thing. Otherwise on similar lines every article on an Indian would have had Hindi, Punjabi, or Urdu names. --Ankur 02:33, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article too fulsome

I don't have the time to do a rewrite now, but this article is turning into fan worship of SRK. It is not NPOV. If anyone else wants to tone it down, please go ahead.

Zora 22:35, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC) (who loathed him in Devdas and would be happy never to see him cry again)

An anon editor added the "info" that Shah Rukh is the son of Dilip Kumar. Huh? If that had been so, I would have heard. I googled and found an interview with Shah Rukh online. He said that his father was a chief engineer.

Whoever added that bit of misinformation was either a vandal, or just mistaken. Zora 06:50, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Of course, he's not son of Dilip Kumar. utcursch 07:24, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

Zora, dont you have anything better to do?? I don't know that Sharukh Khan Muslim or nonmuslim if any body know abot this then Mail me.athar551@hotmail.com becoz in his house evry thing.Quran and another religion book.etc

[edit] Caption for picture

Hi, Rufioo, I did a bunch of copyediting, AND I changed the caption on the picture you supplied. Provenance of picture is relevant only in determining copyright, and the copyright info is stored in the picture database, not in the caption. If the Rufi who took the picture is you, then it's not appropriate to "sign" your contributions to Wikipedia. If readers want to look, the info is there in the history. Otherwise, it's hidden. We're doing a group project. Zora 04:32, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] No horses?

Someone added trivia to the effect that Shah Rukh will never kiss and never ride a horse. True? Didn't he ride in Ashoka? I remember chariots. Zora 06:56, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Absolutely right. In Ashoka's DVD's bonuses, he tells he doesn't like riding horses, but he did it. BernardM 12:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baiju Aur Tansen

This film project has never been confirmed, so I think it should be deleted from the filmographie.

Good idea. I'll do it. Zora 21:06, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

why provocative? shah rukh Khan is an Indian , muslim or not... enjoyed at cinemas all over the world, muslim or not... he is an actor who has portrayed many charachters, muslim or not... he is funny and talented, muslim or not...

SMOKER

[edit] Details

I've seen this actors films several times in Canada on multicultural channels. Clearly he is a big star, and this should be reflected in how much he makes, his power and influence in Bollywood. But I don't see any of that in the article. - Roy Boy ⁸⁰⁰ 05:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Assessment of an actor's importance is an inherently subjective and POV matter. Often, fans hype their own favorites, and denigrate rival actors. (I've seen pro and anti Shahrukh forces skirmishing endlessly on Usenet.) Those of us working on the Bollywood actor/actress articles usually try to steer clear of fancruft.

No one really knows how much Shahrukh makes. Financial details for Bollywood movies aren't as available as the same details for Hollywood. I suppose it would be possible to comparative box office analyses of his films versus, say, the films of Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, Saif Ali Khan, Hrithik Roshan, Amitabh, Abhishek, etc., but it would be a time-consuming matter. Are you volunteering? <g> Zora 10:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I am mulling over what to spill the beans on - I might put in some details at some point about the 'alleged' details of his financial/renumeration arrangements; this I can dig up on other stars. I am an insider. Meanwhile - pieces should be readable by a complete outsider/disinterested person; less flatter and more facts/context would be good. Autumnleaf 20:17, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid "facts" aren't of much use unless they can be publicly verified. A cite of a movie column speculating about SRK's pay would probably be OK if the column was reputable and it was made very clear that this was just speculation. Otherwise the articles would just fill up with gossip. I know, I've deleted a lot of ugly stuff.

I agree that the Bollywood actor/actress articles should have less hype and more facts. It's an uphill battle, however. Fans (most of them anonymous users) are all the time inserting sentences like "Amitabh is the greatest star in the world and a super human being". Those of us who aren't all gaga about stars probably haven't done a good enough job keeping the articles straightforward. Please feel free to jump in and tone things down. Zora 22:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Zora - enjoyed reading what you are upto elsewhere. Girl after my own heart! I can only nod away with you. What I might do as a rule is that on occasions that I know material is about to surface in major print media I will leak material into whatever Wikipedia sites are related. Mainly subcontinental. BTW - is there a 'global' Wiki site for subcontinental celebrities? Seems to be crossover between sport, film, music, literature and so on. Autumnleaf 23:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Having beavered away elsewhere, this page now seems a masterpiece of economy and balance! Pat on our backs ;o) Autumnleaf 16:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] No film industry family

An anon added a bit about Shahrukh making good even though he didn't come from an established film family. I moved the observation and completely rewrote. I hope that other editors could check it for tone -- it may sound too snarky towards film industry families.

Even though I can't stand Uday Chopra ... Zora 04:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Have to concur with you Zora - have removed the chunk of embellishment. Autumnleaf 01:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC) Shahrukh Khan is my favorite singer. Elmo12456 00:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shahrukh and Rani

In a para that deals with SRK's online "chemistry" with his heroines, it's not right to list films in which Rani Mukerji appeared but did NOT play SRK's love interest. She did so briefly in KKHH and more extensively in Chalte Chalte, so I left those two films. Zora 01:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pathan

-Shah Rukh Khan isnt Pathan, is he? I dont know too much about him though. User: Afghan Historian

[edit] why the urdu?

SRK isn't pak and the other Khans don't have any urdu script on their articles.--Dangerous-Boy 10:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

It WAS there. Someone came and put Urdu script by the names of all three Khans; I protested, saying that it seemed to be singling them out as Muslim; there was a vociferous discussion, and most of the editors seemed to be in favor of letting the Urdu stay. Since then, various folks (often anonIPs) have been removing the Urdu and adding Devanagari. I've been staying out of it. Tired of online communal rioting. Zora 11:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be removed.--Dangerous-Boy 18:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Disagree. All the Khans' names are from Urdu/Persian, and most of them probably are more familiar with Urdu than Hindi. Basawala 03:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Khan is mongolian and turkish! You're Chinese. Even you should know this. Urdu would be understandable if these were pak actors but they are not. And how do you know what langauge they are familar with?--Dangerous-Boy 23:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

It's not as if Urdu and Hindi are all that different. Different alphabets and when you're talking fancy, different big words, but if you're just the guy on the street, you speak Hindustani and don't write much in any case. As for what languages they speak at home -- just as likely to be English. Or a mix of English and Bambaiya Hindi. Zora 00:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Mongol and Turkish? The article says Pathan/Pashto. And even I should know what? Until someone gives a source about Khan's native language, i think both nagari and urdu should be kept. And yes, I know, Urdu and Hindi are basically the same language with dif scripts, so why not keep both scripts for the sake of it? And please, Dangerous-Boy no peronal attacks!! "Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views" 1 -- Basawala 02:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

There were no personal attacks in my statement. I see no reason for the urdu because it only cause problems in the future.--Dangerous-Boy 18:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, calling me Chinese is kindof a personal attack, but it doesn't really matter. I think Urdu is appropriate after the Hindi until someone gives a source on SRK, Aamir Khan, or any other Khan's linguistic background. Basawala 20:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Khan is a surname used by people claiming Pathan or Pashtun origin, they speak Urdu. For futher information read

Pashtun,also read Khan (name)

Devnagri should be kept,atleast, because he is an Indian with Hindi as National Language written in Devnagari.Holy---+----Warrior 16:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Shah Rukh Khan has publicly said that he is now a Buddhist.

[edit] POVs

Someone has added --- Favorite Actor Amitabh Bachan Favorite Singer Babbu Mann in the article.Will (s)he give the supporting citation/arguments.Holy---+----Warrior 16:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Plz take these words out
a.k.a SRK or King Khan or the Baadshah of Bollywood or the self-proclaimed Ronaldinho of acting,
These sentences would look strange to a person who is not very familiar with SRK or other people mentioned here.Holy warrior 14:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

Is the mention that he is a Muslima and his wife a Hindu really needed?, then we might have to redesign all the articles to incluide their religion.vikramji

[edit] Highest Paid In India ???? Or Bollywood ?

Why is someone misrepresenting the facts again and again ? Shahrukh is the highest paid actor in Bollywood. Not in India. Clearly, the link provided as citation mentions about Bollywood. Then also, a few users are pushing POV and adding ridiculuos claims. Rajnikanth is the highest paid actor in India and it is cited in his article. Please stick to facts ! I too would've liked if Shahrukh would've been highest in India, but he is not ! So accept it. Why try to mislead others ? Even SRK himself wouldn't like it ! -AryaRajyaमहाराष्ट्र 04:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

IMHO, we should be extremely careful with statements re pay. What resources do we have? Gossip columns? The actors and the producers have every reason to either exaggerate, for publicity, or minimize, for tax purposes. As I understand it, the South Indian situation is particularly opaque, since actors have managed to extract payment in the form of box office receipts, which can be "adjusted" to avoid taxes. I think it's OK to state that there are rumors to the effect that X or Y is the highest paid, if we can source the rumors to reputable published source, but we can't state it as a fact. Hence both Shahrukh and Rajnikanth can be rumoured to be the highest-paid actors, and only their accountants would know the truth of the matter. Zora 07:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movies

An anon has added several movies, where Khan definetely has no part in (at least, I found no reference for them, using IMDb, IndiaFM and RadioSargam):

Lagaan II - I highly doubt, this movie exists, and if so, it would be Aamir Khan playing Bhuvan.
SS-Care - never heard about, didn't find references.
Andaz Apna Apna 2 - no reference as to SRK's involved in this project
My Punjabi Nikkah - see above
Deewaar remake - see above
Kabhie Kabhie remake - has been cancelled
Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam remake - According to Salman Khan's homepage, this is *his* movie
Shootout at Lokhandwala - no reference as to SRK's involved in this project
Mr. Fraud - see above
Alibaug - see above
London Dreams - According to Salman Khan's homepage, this is *his* movie
Bajirao Mastani - see above
Krrish 2 - SRK as Krrish ...??

If you can provide references for any of these projects, please re-add them to the filmography and add the corresponding link

Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 12:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shahrukh Khan/Salman Khan Filmography is MESSED UP!! Restore to previous entry please

Some dumb guy with IP "60.240.126.50" has copied Salman Khan's filmography and pasted it into Sharukh Khan's article. This "60.240.126.50" dumb guy also messed up some of the movie articles of Salman Khan.

What a JERK (60.240.126.50)

Thanks. Please save the articles and if you can then block the articles from editing by unknown people.

[edit] Name?

A citation is needed for Shah Rukh's name being listed as 'Shahrukh' in this article. Whereas Shah Rukh is known all over the media as 'Shah Rukh Khan', what is the necessity of shortening his two forenames? This may have to be changed. Ekantik 05:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I've seen him referred to as both, but have made changes to the article to highlight and explain this. -- TinaSparkle 12:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone cleanup, copyedit, plea for citations

I've just done a general cleanup of this article. Actually, I think it was a lot less POV than many actor biographies, and has lots of really good information in it. It does lack formal sources for some of the assertions, though. I have removed some that seemed to be opinion rather than fact. I've also incorporated some of the 'trivia' section into the main article - generally this is Wikipedia policy, because trivia sections are annoying to read. It would be great to have a picture, too. -- TinaSparkle 12:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Reliable sources are needed for this article in accordance with WP:BLP. Ekantik 17:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SRK & Preity?

Under "Career" they mention his movies with top Bollywood heroines. I think that Dil Se should be removed when Preity Zinta was mentioned because they did not play opposite of each other (and she wasn't a lead role, nor was she in much of the film) therefore I removed the title. Please discuss before adding the movie name back. Sinbihaeyo 13:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I guess then, the same goes for Rani Mukerji and Veer-Zaara, as Mukerji wasn't the lead and wasn't as much in the film as Zinta. --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 13:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

True. Do you think I should delete that as well then? I'm not sure if I should though; because others might not agree. Sinbihaeyo 08:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Hello, everyone, hereby I officially propose to change the references from the version we currently have to the one used in Dia Mirza's article, because the Mirza-version understands when one reference is used twice and incorporates this - it's a bit difficult to understand, but when you compare the the versions to soruce things, you'll know what I mean. What do you think? Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 16:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I've also removed many of the references in the Background section. There's no need to cite references after every sentence. I'll be doing more of a cleanup later on. Ekantik 18:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Where is the reference that 'Shahrukh' is the correct spelling? All forms of Bollywood media reference his name as 'Shah Rukh' and not 'Shahrukh' and even the article mentions the 'Shah Rukh' convention. Other pages for actors in WP:INCINE have also been misnamed. What's the deal? Ekantik 05:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shah Rukh Khan is Pashtun

Maybe this can help some wondering people. I'm Pashtun from Afghanistan, and Shah Rukh Khan's father "Mir Taj Mohammad" is purely a Pashtun name, without a doubt. It's a very common name used among the Pashtuns, whos native language is also Pashto. Ask other Pashtuns and they all will agree with this. The Indians and most Urdu speaking Pakistanis say he is Pathan because they call every single Pashtun a "Pathan". I am pure Pashtun and when I travel to Pakistan, I am always called "Pathan" by the Pakistani Urdu speakers. Sometimes they call me "Khan Saab", but never do they call me Pashtun. ---Pashtun Nov. 20, 2006

Yes but we need a reliable source for the claim that SRK is Pashtun in accordance with WP:BLP. Ekantik 01:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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