Talk:Scouting in California

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[edit] States

Would Wikipedians entertain the idea of having the Councils-by-state sections recategorized to "Scouting in Arizona", "Scouting in Washington", and so on, rather than a list of every council and district? The reason I would like this considered is

1) no other country's Scouting articles are divided into such minute details (except for The Scout Association of Hong Kong, and really, is that much minutiae important or interesting to the reader?)

2) many councils that a reader may choose to look up, like the Fitchburg Area Council of Massachusetts or the Vigilante Area Council of Montana, went extinct 30+ years ago, yet may be of interest in a more state-based article

3) many states like Alaska share a communal Scout history, only fairly recently being broken into smaller councils, others like North Dakota had several merged into one, and some Scouting histories are better told encompassing an entire state. The fact that Scouts in California prior to the charter of the BSA were the youth arm of the California Highway Patrol, or the fact that Connecticut, while having only eight counties, has had 22 councils over the course of its history, would be well-included in a statewide article Chris 01:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

A Scouting in California article (or any other state) should also include information on Girl Scouting, and possibly Scouting For All and other schizmatic groups (for lack of a better word). It doesn't seem unreasonable to combine them into state articles, but don't delete existing council articles in the process. Gentgeen 01:47, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Camp Stuart merge

I oppose the merger of Camp Stuart into this article. If it should be merged anywhere, it should be into the Santa Clara County Council article. Gentgeen 03:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historical council information to be folded in

California Lindsay 1917 1918 Tulare County 56 1918
California Vacaville 1917 1918 Solano County 54 1918
California Crockett 1917 1919 ended 1919
California Redlands 1919 1921
California 54 Solano County 1922 1925 ended 1925
California 56 Tulare County 1922 1925 ended 1925
California 22 Alameda 1917
California 38 Napa 1917 1922 changed name to Napa County 38 1922
California 34 Luther Burbank 1923 1927 merged into Napa County 38 1927
California 38 Napa County 1922 1928 changed name to Silverado Area 38 1928
California 23 Berkeley 1913 1932 merged into Contra Costa County 24 1932
California 24 Contra Costa County 1922 1932 changed name to Berkeley Contra Costa County 23 1932
California 23 Berkeley-Contra Costa County 1935 1951 changed name to Mount Diablo 23 1951
California 23 Mount Diablo 1951 1992 September 1 merged into Mount Diablo-Silverado 23 1992 September 1
California 38 Silverado Area 1928 1992 September 1 merged into Mount Diablo-Silverado 23 1992 September 1
California 23 Mount Diablo-Silverado 1992 September 1
California 25 Monterey Bay Area 1933
California 27 Fresno 1919 1925 changed name to Sequoia 27 1925
California 54 Mount Whitney Area 1929 1992 July 1 merged into Sequoia 27 1992 July 1
California 27 Sequoia 1925
California 21 Oakland 1915 1921 changed name to Oakland Area 21 1921
California 51 San Francisco 1916 1924 changed name to San Francisco Area 51 1924
California 51 San Francisco Area 1924 1965 merged into San Francisco Bay Area 28 1965
California 21 Oakland Area 1921 1965 merged into San Francisco Bay Area 28 1965
California 28 San Francisco Bay Area 1965
California 30 Bakersfield 1919 1921 changed name to Kern County 30 1921
California 30 Kern County 1922 1965 changed name to Southern Sierra 30 1965
California 30 Southern Sierra 1965
California 31 Stanford Area 1940 1994 January 1 merged into Pacific Skyline 31 1994 January 1
California 20 San Mateo County 1932 1994 January 1 merged into Pacific Skyline 31 1994 January 1
California 31 Pacific Skyline 1994 January 1
California 32 Long Beach 1919 1923 changed name to Long Beach District 32 1923
California 32 Long Beach District 1923 1944 changed name to Long Beach Area 32 1944
California 32 Long Beach Area 1944
California 708 Centinela 1925 1927 changed name to Los Angeles 33 1927
California 33 Los Angeles 1915 1934 merged into Los Angeles Metropolitan Area 33 1934
California 46 San Antonio District 1922 1934 merged into Los Angeles Metropolitan Area 33 1934
California 767 South Pasadena 1927 1934 merged into Los Angeles Metropolitan Area 33 1934
California 33 Los Angeles Metropolitan Area 1934 1945 changed name to Los Angeles Area 33 1945
California 33 Los Angeles Area 1945
California Mill Valley 1917 1918 merged into Marin County 35 1918
California Sausalito 1917 1918 merged into Marin County 35 1918
California 35 Marin County 1923
California 39 Orange County 1920 1944 changed name to Orange Empire Area 39 1944
California 37 Northern Orange County 1944 1965 changed name to North Orange 37 1965
California 37 North Orange 1965 1972 merged into Orange County 39 1972
California 39 Orange Empire Area 1944 1972 merged into Orange County 39 1972
California 39 Orange County 1972 http://www.ocbsa.org
California 40 Pasadena 1919 1929 changed name to Pasadena-San Gabriel Valley 40 1929
California 40 Pasadena-San Gabriel Valley 1929 1951 changed name to San Gabriel Valley 40 1951
California 40 San Gabriel Valley 1951
California 41 Petaluma Section 1921 1944 changed name to Sonoma-Mendocino 41 1944
California 41 Sonoma-Mendocino Area 1944 1992June 1 merged into Redwood Empire 41 1992June 1
California 44 Redwood Area 1923 1992 June 1 merged into Redwood Empire 41 1992 June 1
California 41 Redwood Empire 1992 June 1
California 42 Piedmont 1921
California 43 Pomona 1917 1921 changed name to Old Baldy 43 1921
California 43 Old Baldy 1921 http://www.obcbsa.org
California 45 Riverside 1919 1920 changed name to Riverside County 45 1920
California 48 San Bernardino Valley 1922 1923 changed name to San Bernardino District 48 1923
California 28 Hemet-San Jacinto Valley 1923 1927 merged into Riverside Area 45 1927
California 48 San Bernardino District 1923 1933 changed name to Arrowhead Area 48 1933
California 45 Riverside County 1920 1944 changed name to Riverside County and Redlands 45 1944
California 45 Riverside County and Redlands 1944 1945 changed name to Riverside County 45 1945
California 24 Redlands Area 1945 1952 changed name to Grayback 24 1952
California 45 Riverside County 1945 1972 merged into California Inland Empire 45 1972
California 48 Arrowhead Area 1933 1972 merged into California Inland Empire 45 1972
California 24 Grayback 1952 1974 merged into California Inland Empire 45 1974
California 45 California Inland Empire 1972
California 37 Mount Shasta Area 1923 1926 merged into Mount Lassen 36 1926
California 646 Kit Carson 1924 1927 merged into Sacramento 47 1927
California 47 Sacramento 1920 1933 changed name to Sacramento Area 47 1933
California 47 Sacramento Area 1933 1937 changed name to Golden Empire 47 1937
California 648 Tahoe Area 1924 1969 merged into Golden Empire 47 1969
California 36 Mount Lassen Area 1924 1992 March 1 merged into Golden Empire 47 1992 March 1
California 647 Buttes Area 1924 1992 September 1 merged into Golden Empire 47 1992 September 1
California 47 Golden Empire 1937
California Coronado 1916 1917 San Diego County 49 1917
California 49 San Diego 1916 1921 changed name to San Diego County 49 1921
California 29 Imperial County 1922 1929 changed name to Imperial-Yuma Area 29 1929
California 29 Imperial-Yuma Area 1929 1959 changed name to Desert Trails 29 1959
Arizona 29 Desert Trails 1959 1993 January 1 merged into Desert Pacific 49 1993 January 1
California 49 San Diego County 1921 1993 January 1 merged into Desert Pacific 49 1993 January 1
California 49 Desert Pacific 1993 January 1
California 50 San Fernando Valley 1923 1972 merged into Great Western 51 1972
California 26 Crescent Bay Area 1922 1972 merged into Great Western 51 1972
California 51 Great Western 1972 1985 changed name to Western Los Angeles County 51 1985
California 51 Western Los Angeles County 1985 http://www.bsa-la.org
California Santa Barbara 1917 1918
California 25 Central Coast Counties 1922 1924 merged into Santa Barbara 53 1924
California 53 Santa Barbara 1919 1929 changed name to Mission 53 1929
California 56 San Luis Obispo County 1933 1939 changed name to Santa Lucia Area 56 1939
California 53 Mission 1929 1994 January 1 merged into Los Padres 53 1994 January 1
California 56 Santa Lucia Area 1939 1994January 1 merged into Los Padres 53 1994January 1
California 53 Los Padres 1994 January 1
California 31 Santa Cruz County 1922 changed name to Loma Prieta District 31 1922
California 55 San Jose 1920 1922 changed name to Santa Clara County 55 1922
California 55 Santa Clara County 1922 1924 changed name to Santa Clara and San Benito Counties 55 1924
California 31 Loma Prieta District 1922 1926 changed name to Monterey Bay 31 1926
California 31 Monterey Bay 1926 1927 merged into Santa Clara and San Benito Counties 55 1927
California 55 Santa Clara and San Benito Counties 1924 1928 changed name to Santa Clara, San Benito and Monterey Bay 55 1928
California 55 Santa Clara, San Benito and Monterey Bay 1928 1929 changed name to Santa Clara County 55 1929
California 55 Santa Clara County 1929
California 57 Ventura County 1921
California 58 Glendale 1920 1922 changed name to Verdugo Hills 58 1922
California 58 Verdugo Hills 1922 http://www.vhcbsa.org
California 59 Modesto 1920 1921 changed name to Stanislaus County 59 1921
California 52 Stockton 1918 1922 changed name to San Joaquin 52 1922
California 59 Stanislaus County 1921 1922 changed name to Yosemite Area 59 1922
California 52 San Joaquin and Calaveras Counties 1925 1929 changed name to San Joaquin-Calaveras 52 1929
California 52 San Joaquin-Calaveras 1929 1957 changed name to Forty-Niner 52 1957
California 52 Forty Niner 1957 1997 September 1 merged into Yosemite Area 59 1997 September 1
California 59 Yosemite Area 1922 1998 January 1 changed name to Greater Yosemite 59 1998 January 1
California 59 Greater Yosemite 1998 January 1 http://bsa-gyc.org