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Contents 1 17 or 18??? 2 Rouge's Age 3 Edit Block 4 Rouge's Breast Size 4.1 Other Sonic series girls and their breast sizes 5 Sonic and Rouge 6 Knuckles x Rouge relationship 7 Console Market Leave 8 Shadow and Rouge 9 New Picture 10 Quotes 11 Comic 2 Quote!? 12 Character Info/Personality 13 Abilities 14 Rouge's Age 15 Shadow and Rouge 16 Rouge's weight 17 Rouge's translated profile 18 Jumpsuits 19 better than jewels.... 20 Good Article? 21 more picz plz 22 Missing Info 23 Hey what happened to the article?

[edit] 17 or 18???

Shoudn't the age say 17 or 18. Because an instruction manul does say shes 17 and a website says she 18.

[edit] Rouge's Age

I've noticed lately that people, specifically 82.33.13.30, adding that she's 17. She's 18! Check her profile on Sonic Channel, or any other site, even Concept Mobius. And please, stop adding that she's 17. I'm sick of correcting it! UnDeRsCoRe 13:31, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll assist in this matter. Grandmastergalvatron 00:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok this is the last straw 82.33.13.30 just vandilised my page because I kept on reverting the 17 years old edits! Block that IP now! UnDeRsCoRe 15:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

hey wait Rouge is 18 my bad, 82.33.13.30

No, really? UnDeRsCoRe 22:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalizing his page was totally unnecessary >> Grandmastergalvatron 17:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

yea i got a message about that im not even a member of this thing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.33.13.30 (talk • contribs) .

Well, Rouge was originally 18 and it was corrected to 17 in Sonic Heroes. --PJ Pete

Which was later corrected by Sonic Channel which states that she's 18.GrandMasterGalvatron 12:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Shoudn't the age say 17 or 18. Because an instruction manul does say shes 17 and a website says she 18.

[edit] Edit Block

Can we get a block or something on Rouge's age? Someone insistenly changes it to 17 when it is stated in more than one source that she is not. Grandmastergalvatron 16:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

actually, can we just block IP 82.33.13.30 from editing the page? Grandmastergalvatron 20:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't really think that's a suitible decision. IP 82.33.13.30 isn't necisarily "vandlising", he, or she, just thinks that her age is 17 because of the Heroes manual. We could just send a fair warning, cause obviously IP 82.33.13.30 isn't reading the history page and seeing why we're reverting his/her edits. But if the problem persists, we will have to block edits to Rouge the Bat from IP 82.33.13.30 UnDeRsCoRe 22:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Ok this is the last straw 82.33.13.30 just vandilised my page because I kept on reverting the 17 years old edits! Block that IP now! UnDeRsCoRe 15:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rouge's Breast Size

Does this: "In Sonic Adventure 2 Rouge's 3D model has the biggest size of breast (in comparison with other versions)." really need to be known. It isn't really significant. And besides, even if so, why would be the reason of this? I removed it. UnDeRsCoRe 02:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

What? No it doesn't! They're all the same, it's the oufits that make them look different. All that's needed is a simple side view. Grandmastergalvatron 00:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone keeps on talking about Rouge's, you knows, in this article. Please stop it. SHE'S A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. UnDeRsCoRe 21:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

To deny the sexual references of video game characters is quite naive these days. Especially with games like "Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball" and such. Grandmastergalvatron 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not denying them (her entire appearence is, undeniably, a sexual refrence to attract "adolenscent (heterosexual) males and lesbians", it's just that the fact that her breasts were any larger, smaller, etc. is not the whole point of this article. The page was getting seemingly stuffed with refrences that her "Breasts were largest in SA2" or "In Shadow the Hedgehog they shrunk". This is an opinionated decision, and wheater or not they were big, small, or just round about not there, has not been confirmed. For all we now, they are all the same size. UnDeRsCoRe 22:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

That I agree with. I've removed many of those statements Grandmastergalvatron 01:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that Rouge is supposed to be the sex symbol of the Sonic series. Which, by the way, means that Amy is not supposed to be the sex symbol. Just to notify the pervert trolls. --Luigifan 18:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's outfit in Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog is the same outfit. It seems to me that sega toned her character design down, presumably to make more sutable for a younger audience (even though they didnt remove the gun use in that game, which i think is much worse) I think thats worth a mention. ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 07:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Sonic series girls and their breast sizes

While I still say Rouge is the official sex symbol of the Sonic series, I have to point out that Rouge isn't the only character with a large breast size... I can think of two others off the top of my head; Amy Rose and Princess Sally Acorn. Sally, in particular, is controversial because the only clothes she wears are a vest and a pair of boots!! And the vest is always left open!!! If anything, Sally's the one who should be shouted at! I'm not a Sally hater, but, for crying out loud, the lack of clothes is disturbing!!! --Luigifan 03:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Amy? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No really...Amy hardly has any breasts XD. I believe Sonia and Bunnie are more "developed" than she is in that respect.  :P GrandMasterGalvatron 04:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

What? Just look at Amy's official artwork from Sonic Heroes. You cannot tell me she doesn't have large... you know. --Luigifan 12:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

• looks at artwork* No...she doesn't :P Seriously... Sonia has a larger chest than Amy does. XD

But then again, this really depends on one's definition of "large"GrandMasterGalvatron 15:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you kidding? Amy looks like an hourglass in that photo! But, this isn't supposed to be about Amy, it's supposed to be about Rouge!!! --Luigifan 21:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

True. The point simply is that Rouge and Amy's chest sizes are nowhere near equal ;)GrandMasterGalvatron 22:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I never said that they were equal. Just that Amy also had large, well, you know. --Luigifan 22:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you incapable of saying the word "breast" or something :P Just messing with ya there. Oh...I also want to mention that Rouge's physique has not been altered since her debut (sans a tail removal). I don't know where people are getting the idea that she has been toned down or anything. All it takes is a good view of her side profile to see that she hasn't changed. I also said this before but no physics were altered from SA2 to SA2:B. The frame rate jumped up and since the game moves faster, the screen is usually too busy to notice. GrandMasterGalvatron 22:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't played Sonic Adventure 2, only the remake, so I have no clue what you mean by that. And, I have noticed the 'bouncing boobies' in SA2:B. --Luigifan 22:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, in SA2, the VS mode frame rate was 30 fps as opposed to 60 fps like it is in Battle. This resulted in a slightly slower game. During Rouge's intro pose, her breasts bounced just like some anime chick....they did in her victory pose as well. Although SA2:B does the same, it's a lot faster...I guess that's where people though she was toned down.GrandMasterGalvatron 22:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the argument over Amy has stagnated, but, come on, Sally's "slut factor" is undeniable. I have to wonder why parents are more disturbed by Rouge than they are by Sally. I mean, for crying out loud, is it that hard to get a bra?!??? Yeesh... --Luigifan 21:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sonic and Rouge

I don't think Rouge said she would go on a date with him to get Emerl in Sonic Battle. And it was never stated she thinks he's "way too cocky". So I removed the cocky comment. UnDeRsCoRe

It was Sonic who suggested that Rouge was trying to date him. Grandmastergalvatron 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, then that means Rouge may not have wanted to date him, Sonic simply thought so. UnDeRsCoRe 22:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knuckles x Rouge relationship

There is no evidence Knuckles likes her back - as far as I see, it's a one sided crush. The only official source that indicates she has a crush on him is her profile in Sonic Central, which says She has a crush on a certain red echidna we all know and love. She is secretly inspired by his determination to protect the Master Emerald. <-- where does that indicate he likes her?

In Sonic Adventure 2, he caught her hand as she was falling. In Sonic X, he blushes around her and shows other signs. Other than that, although he seems to dislike her, it's probable that he actually likes her. Perhaps he's trying to cover it.

Also, it's not all one-sided. Rouge is kind of flirtacious (like with Shadow in Sonic Heroes), so it's possible she may not like Knuckles. Just maybe. Actually, these are all maybes and perhaps. --anon

Rouge is flirtacious with everyone. She even tries to "put the moves on" Tails, for crying out loud! I do prefer Shadow x Rouge to Knuckles x Rouge, but I'm not boneheaded enough to try to use Rouge's flirts as "proof" that she isn't interested in Knuckles. --Luigifan 18:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Nah. Rouge liking Knuckles is as official as Amy liking Sonic. It even says so on the official Sonic website. And, at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, she said when was talking to him, she said she was going to focus on getting other things than jewels, and then said, "You" under her breath.

What? I really don't remember hearing that. Are you sure she said that? You're not making this up, are you? Anyhow, if the official website said that, then Rouge likes Knuckles and Knuckles probably likes her. --anon

What Rouge said at the end was something to the effect of "I have something better than jewels in mind." She never gave any hint as to what it was, and it seems to have been dropped anyway, because she is still after those jewels.

Actually if you pay close attention to her hand, she lifts up her right hand, the same hand that Sonic gave her Shadow's bracelet.

Whoever keeps mentioning Rouge's breasts on this article, knock it off.-User:Denjo

That's off topic. User:Denjo, you should be complaining a few sections up. --Luigifan 18:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe this is opinionated, but I think she is just using knuckles to get the M.E. And he likes her. I mean, Thats in character for both of them.

Wait...Do I understand she's trying to do the Knuck man? Roxyr 15:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do NOT get into that. I doubt Sega will EVER imput sex into their games. I doubt she's trying to get into sexual relations with him. God, stop speculating. UnDeRsCoRe 16:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I think Roxy meant that Rouge was trying to take advantage of Knuckles to get her hands on the Master Emerald. After all, it is official that "Rouge isn't above using her feminine wiles to get what she wants." Still, the fact that she's so flirtatious does kind of make you wonder whether or not she's lost her virginity by now... Or, maybe the misinterpretation is on Roxy's part. --Luigifan 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Let me explain what I meant by do. I mean hoodwink, to pull one over, trick, as I know that Sega will never put sex into their games. I'm completely against it. In fact, I think I wrote about it in the Elise section...Anyway, I hope that clears up confusion. BTW, thanks for calling me Roxy. Roxyr 17:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what I was saying, that Rouge probably was trying to befuddle Knux so that she could make off with the Master Emerald!! --Luigifan 21:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Console Market Leave

Why did Rouge appear for the first time before Sega left the console market? --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com

I dont know, but it doesnt really matter that much. who knows, maby sega will come back to makeing them.-- J.A.B.

[edit] Shadow and Rouge

How do you know Shadow and Rouge have a brother-sister relationship? --anon

They don't, it merely suggests that their relationship is similar to a brother-sister relationship. -- VederJuda 20:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Picture

>x<ino uploaded a new picture of Rouge, from Shadow the Hedgehog, so I'm putting it on here, in keeping with the giudeline that articles should start with the most up-to-date picture available. -- VederJuda 20:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

You know, the quotes here look too cluttered. We should either get rid of some or move them all to Wikiquote (at the Sonic the Hedgehog section). --anon

When did Rouge kiss knuckles?

In the game or show? --anon

Never - well, in Sonic X I think she may have pecked him on the cheek, but don't quote me on that. On quotes, I think that there should only ever be one quote from each appearance.

Wow.. i can't believe knuckles actually let her kiss him... I wonder if they will have some batidnas? Hmmm... Echidnats or Batidnas, you decide! Dalek

What are Echidnats and Batidnas? Are those their children? Well, a kiss wouldn't make anybody pregnant. --anon

I know something that would! Ha ha ha, naughty little echidna, you! Dalek

I'm rather disturbed now. --Luigifan 18:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

You are all freaks.

I agree. Roxyr

Erm. . . Getting a little off topic?--Qwerty The 3rd 21:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comic 2 Quote!?

Two images sits at the left & right side of the Quote Section.

One of them has to be deleted, so decide.

I say the right one should be deleted

>x<ino 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and I also think the quotes should move to Wikiquote! --anon

Good thinking!

>x<ino 02:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The cover on the right (#152) has Rouge pushed in the back, so I agree that's the one that should go; and I also agree there are too many quotes, there shouldn't be more than 3 or 4. Also, I'm going to move the pictures up, they are about the comic, so they should be contained within the comic section, not drooping down into the quotes section. -- VederJuda 02:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Great work on moving the pics...great we don't need to delete them any more

for the record, the Quotes need to be sorted out!

>x<ino 02:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that Rouge doesn't even show up in Sonic the Hedgehog #152; Fiona Fox should have been on that cover instead! --Luigifan 18:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

We already decided to keep them on January! That's nearly a year ago. So there's no point in pointing that out now. UnDeRsCoRe 21:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Character Info/Personality

I merged the Character Info and Personality subjects as they seemed to be repeating each other. I also moved Rouge's stats to the top of the page, which is where the stats are placed in the other Sonic profiles. --Some girl called Harley.

I hope you people don't mind but, in the finel episode of Sonic X Rouge states she is going to work with Sonic and the gang, and she also had a necklace with a purple heart with silver trimming

So am I like the only one oh noticet that Rouge has fangs

[edit] Abilities

Thanks to 66.61.118.53 coming up with this section, but making a poor edit on it!
I am not a Rouge fan character, so I dunno that much information on her.
But I have some ideas for this section.

I will create a Sub header section under this section "Abilities"

• Sonic Adventure 2
• Sonic Heroes
• Sonic Advanced!?
• Shadow the Hedgehog

With this section we will explain which of her abilites and moves, for example powers up she needs in SA2 and even Upgrade for her skills in Sonic Heroes

I believe my work here is done, I will add the sub section and complete her Sonic Heroes abilities.

"LOOK SHARP PEOPLE...>x<ino and out!">x<ino 01:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Rouge is Knuckles's rivel why can,t she change into super?

Possibly because the ability may be a limited one. Also, she had never had all the emeralds. Grandmastergalvatron 17:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rouge's Age

Please provide evidence that Rouge is 18 and not 17, please. If her age was incorrect in the english manual of Sonic Heroes, I'd like proof that it is wrong, instead of just an assurance that it is correct.Nintenfreak 05:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Done: http://sonic.sega.jp/chara/chara_rouge.html If my memory is correct, she's also listed as 18 in Sonic X. I think the Heroes manual may have been a mistake. --Matt S. 02:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's always possible that she simply became older.RememberMe? 00:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the Sonic Heroes manual does say she's 17...I thought she was 18 before that, and now that I see this, I'm so confused...TMNT Donatello 10:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

That was a printing mastake according to sega she is 18

[edit] Shadow and Rouge

In Sonic Battle, I don't remember Rouge calling Shadow "prince". Could somebody please inform me where Rouge says this? --71.104.188.207 06:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC) She says it when he wakes up from fainting. she says 2Aha, so the prince has finally awakened!" Dalek

Isn't that sarcastic or something? Cause it's not exactly a romantic thing to say. --71.118.77.204 01:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like an attempt at a pop culture reference. --DavidHOzAu 03:57, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

What pop culture reference? --71.105.12.73 02:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Snow white Grandmastergalvatron 17:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rouge's weight

All official sources state that Rouge's weight is unknown, or a "secret," to my knowledge. As such, I've edited the page to match and included a source (though I forgot to include an edit summary--Sorry! Still new here.) If anyone finds a valid source concerning her weight, please speak up. --Matt S. 02:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

It's a well-known stereotype that most women don't like to reveal their weight.  :p --Luigifan 03:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rouge's translated profile

With some help from Hepburn romanization and [1], I have translated the right-hand-side column of Rouge's profile.

Kanji/Katakana	Hepburn	Modified	Translation
ル一ジュ ・ザ ・バット	ruuju za batto	rūju za batto	romaji: rouge the bat
ル一ジュ	ruuju	rūju	romaji: rouge
コウモユ	koumoyu	koumoyu	???
女 (ニョ)	onna (jo)	onna (jo)	female
105cm	105 sentamitta	105 sentamitta	105cm
シ一勹レット	shiikuretto	shīkuretto	romaji: secret
18歳 (18サイ)	18 sai	18 sai	18-years-old
宝石 (ホウ 石)	houseki (takara ishi)	houseki	gem/jewel (treasure/wealth/valuables stone)
スクリュ一キック	sukuryuu kikku	sukuryū kikku	screw kick

Enjoy, everyone.--DavidHOzAu 07:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Rouge's full name has been added to the article. --DavidHOzAu 08:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jumpsuits

You'ev got to be kidding me am I the only one who notetice that in Shadow the hedgehog gameplay her Jumpsuit was like Sonic adventure 2 but pink!!?

I noticed that. UnDeRsCoRe 17:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

But the Wikipedia article says that Rouge's jumpsuit in Shadow the Hedgehog is "actually colored purple!?" No way!! No offence her jumpsuit color in Shadow the Hedgehog is the same in SA2! >.> Tikal-chan 09:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Not during gameplay it isn't Grandmastergalvatron 00:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] better than jewels....

I know this was already metioned on the talk page, but how come on the part where it talks about Rouge's relationship with Shadow it doesn't mention the part in SA2 in the end where Rouge suggests she might give up hunting jewels because she works to hard for to little; and then says: "Anyway, I've got something better than jewels that I'm thinking about right now...." and she's holding Shadow's Ring bracelet! Isn't that an indication that she has some strong feelings for him?

Maybe, maybe she will say something in the new Sonic game about that

There's no real evidence, though. Either she was thinking about Knuckles and randomly moved her hand (SA2 has a thing for random movements), she made a reference to the bracelet and was thinking about Shadow (Was he really dead? Could've he Chaos Controlled at the last second?), or maybe something completely different Sega hasn't revealed yet. I think something should be added about the "bracelet controversy." Ne?

Yes, ne. I mean, no. The bracelet controversy is very insignificant, people have just made it more than it is by saying blatant rumours and theories. In reality, in could've meant anything. But, either way, it dosen't really matter. So don't bother with the bracelet controversy. And, yes he did survive, so if she was ever going to say something about that bracelet, she should've said it by now. Oh, an, it wasn't a bracelet, it was a ring. They even call it that in Sonic X. UnDeRsCoRe 03:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Isnt it obvious that she is thinking about knuckles? Shes only holding shadow's ring because sonic gave it to her. Sega have stated that she has a crush on knuckles. Her relationship with shads seems to be just a brother/sister relationship. ROSSYMILES (ロシマイルス) TALK 02:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article?

What will it take for this article to become a Good Article? Paul Haymon 00:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Wait, I just realized the answer: A whole lot of work. Paul Haymon 19:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you mind on telling us what you think we should do? UnDeRsCoRe 20:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

For starters let's remove the critisim section. Coconutfred73 14: 51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Kill'dGrandMasterGalvatron 20:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

In response to UnDeRsCoRe, it's mainly an issue of prose. The article is probably around B-Class right now, but a restructuring of the sentences and complexity of the words used is mostly what is needed. The article has actually gotten a lot better since I asked the initial question on Sept. 26. I'll help with this issue, don't worry. Paul Haymon 22:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out~ I'll try and help out too, if I have the time. UnDeRsCoRe 22:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] more picz plz

ok guyz we need 2 get more picz of rouge on thsi page their just arent enough!!!!!11!!1/ MultiJoe 23:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No we don't. There is only one (the Sonic Battle Art) that isn't up. We don't need anymore up, there's enough. UnDeRsCoRe 00:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

By Wikipedia's standards, there's too many pictures, if anything. 5 is the recommended amount for these fair use deals. Paul Haymon 00:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was getting at, via some apparantly underpowered sarcasm. Same goes for the Knuckles article and probably the rest of the Sonic fandom. MultiJoe 13:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd certainly like less noob fodder... --Luigifan 21:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Info

All info beyond her relationship with Knuckles is gone. - The 4th Snake 21:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Back now. - The 4th Snake 15:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The info about her in Sonic x is gone

[edit] Hey what happened to the article?

Almost everything is gone! Someone vandalised it. Please fix it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.240.253.116 (talk • contribs) .

What? Looks fine to me...