Talk:Paul Joseph James Martin
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The elder Martin was not Paul Martin, Sr., and the younger is not Paul Martin, Jr., since they have different middle names (much like George Herbert Walker Bush and George W. Bush. The elder Martin is Paul Joseph James Martin and the younger is Paul Edgar Philippe Martin. Homey 00:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- I disagree with this conclusion. While I'm not familiar with many juniors and seniors, I've never heard of an explicit rule which requires that the names be exactly the same. Are we sure this isn't a specifically American convention?
- In any case, this Paul Martin is commonly referred to in contemporary Canadian media as "Paul Martin, Sr.", and nobody would ever think of looking for him at "Paul Joseph James Martin". --Saforrest 06:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
It actually is an explict rule which is why George Herbert Walker Bush is not offically referred to as George Bush Sr. and George W. Bush isn't George Bush Jr. Homey 00:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
See Junior which reads "A child with the exact same name as a parent (almost always a son and father, e.g., Ken Griffey, Jr.). They are sometimes (incorrectly in US English) also called II, especially if there's a third or fourth with the same name. (There are, however, situations where II is correct and Jr. is incorrect.) See also Suffix (name)" Homey 00:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
