User talk:Oliver Pereira

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1 Thanks, much clearer
2 What is "WWWQ" about??
3 I made a re-direct
4 Yo Olive, a Barnstar!!
5 Szent-Györgyi
6 Come join the AIW
7 Status of Slogan: Naming Convention?
8 Where are you?
9 Article Licensing
10 What happened?
11 Greetings!
12 And yet more schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion
13 the issue of school articles
14 Neutral Wikipedia?
15 Fast reverting
16 How am I finding it?
17 Wikipedia:Verifiability#Obscure_topics
18 RfC related to Verifiablity and Reputable Sources
19 Emma Watson

[edit] Thanks, much clearer

Is there some place to flag near-duplicate articles if one doesn't want to do the merge themselves? Seems like there should be. Just making one a redir with no notification doesn't seem right.

Hmmm...taking a step back, I think you should consider moving the accompanied by your reasoning sentence back towards the top ot the section--maybe on it's own line between the top two sentences of the section. People that are just on the page to find out how to vote (IE not reading the whole page) may stop after the the first six votes. Niteowlneils 06:26, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I think you need to wait more than 2 days before claiming consensus. A lot of people spent a lot of time converting subst to msg at Wikipedia:List of stubs without msg, so I expect they might object. Angela . 00:52, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)

You could advertise it on the pump, which is what most people do, but it's a bit too crowded there lately, so maybe WP:RfC would be better. Angela . 02:12, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)

As an occasional contributor to the grandfather paradox article, I'm hoping that you have some familiarity with Newcomb's paradox. I am asking for informed comment on that article to head off what might become an edit war. Thanks for any assistance you can provide. Rossami

[edit] What is "WWWQ" about??

An Atlanta FM radio station with call letters "WWWQ" located at 100.5 FM. If this article title bothers you, you may re-direct to WWWQ-FM. User 66.32.110.151

[edit] I made a re-direct

Did you remember what you put on Talk:List of radio stations in Georgia (U.S. state)?? Well, I made what you think is a better title into a re-direct. 66.32.159.199 18:30, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Yo Olive, a Barnstar!!

He he, sorry I could resist that Olive thing..how are you Oliver?

Because you are an appreciated friend I have given you a Barnstar award. I hope you enjoy it!

God bless you!

Sincerely yours, your friend, "Antonio My voices tell me to get out of here!!!! Martin"

[edit] Szent-Györgyi

Actually it's not sure Albert Szent-Györgyi and that Thoroczko-Szent-Györgyi guy are related. Translated literally, Szent-Györgyi (or Szentgyörgyi) means 'a person from Szent-György'. The trouble is, there are several towns and villages called Szentgyörgy in Hungary, and with do not know which one Albert Szent-Gyögyi's name refers to. It may be Torockószentgyörgy, but also Marosszentgyörgy, Somogyszentgyörgy etc.

[edit] Come join the AIW

You are currently listed as an honorary member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians, we encourage you to become a full-fledged member. Posiduck 04:26, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Status of Slogan: Naming Convention?

Aloha. I was wondering what the status is for naming Slogan articles. I see that you reverted a slew of them in March 2003, but I can't find anything in the naming convention pages that discuss this. Can you tell me how to name slogan pages? Thanks in advance. --Viriditas 06:38, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Where are you?

You haven't left have you? Hope you come back. Dori | Talk 05:43, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 13:44, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What happened?

"We regret to inform you that Oliver Pereira is no longer with us." Please tell me that is from some vandal and not a family member or friend giving us bad news... --mav 03:03, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. But I am still here! I have no idea who edited my page, or why, but I expect it was just some silly prankster... I've just fixed the page. (I forgot to sign in first, but the last edit to my user page was me.) And I'll reply to the other messages on this page later... -- Oliver P. 09:57, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

That's a big relief. :) --mav 10:19, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings!

Hello!

[edit] And yet more schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

Hello Oliver,

As of March 31, 2005, there are an additional (10) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia deletion policy). Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a Schoolwatch programme has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth. Please feel free to add this page to your watchlist and make contributions as you are able; better articles make for a better Wikipedia. Your comments are welcome and I thank you for your time. --GRider\^talk

[edit] the issue of school articles

In November 2003, you participated in a VfD debate over Sunset High School (Portland). The debate was archived under Talk:Sunset High School (Portland). The issue over this article remains contested. moreover, there still does not exist a wikipedia policy (as far as i can tell) over what to do in regards to articles about specific U.S. public school. The article in question has been re-nominated for VfD at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sunset High School (Portland). My hope is that a real consensus can come out of the debate, and a real policy can take shape. Take part if you are so willing. Kingturtle 02:11, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC) P.S. The history of the debate can also be reviewed and discussed at Are high schools encyclopedic?.

When are you coming back? Deb 16:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral Wikipedia?

Dear Wikipedia administrator

I am writting you about the issue of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia, Macedonian Slavs (like Wikipedia calls the Macedonians) and the problem between Macedonia and Greece about the term Macedonia. I am aware that this issue is largely discussed here, at Wikipedia, and Wikipedia claims that it is trying to take a neutral side. But, that is not the case. Wikipedia is everything except neutral in this question. In the following lines I will explain you why.

From the text in Wikipedia most of the people will conclude that Macedonian nation appeared during the World War 2 and Tito was the one who 'invented' us. The family of my wife (she is Mexican) read this and asked me is it truth. That was actually the first time I read what Wikipedia says about my nation, which was a direct reason for my reaction. My grandfather is born in 1911th. Yesterday I had a talk with him. He took a part in the strugle for independence since 1925th and he took a part in the 2nd world war. He is alive and personal prove that Wikipedia is full of bullshit and lies about our origin. He spent half of his life proving and fighting for that. He was shot 3 times, all 3 from the Bulgarians who wanted to ocupy Macedonia in the Balkan wars and in the WW1 and WW2. Just a 1 min with him will show you how many lies you suport in Wikipedia.

I tried to edit some of the text few days ago, but everithing I wrote was deleted. And all I wrote were facts. Fact 1. Macedonians (or Macedonian Slavs, like ONLY Wikipedia, Greece and Cyprus calls us) is the only nation of many living in the area concentrated inside the borders of the geographical region of Macedonia. This is a pure fact, something that you can even find on the CIA web page. Can you give any fact to deny my fact? If you can not, why you erased it from Wikipedia? Fact 2. Republic of Macedonia has diplomatic relations with about 150 countries in the world. Wikipedia says that "at least 20" countries recognize Macedonia under the name Macedonia. Guess what? That number is more than 100. And this is an officially confirmed by our ministery for foreighn affairs. Fact 3. Wikipedia says that my country Contraversialy calls itself Republic of Macedonia. This is a pure example of taking a side in the problem. Why you don't say that Greece contraversialy deny us the use of the name Macedonia? If you intended to be neutral, just write that we have the naming problem with Greece, but do not call my name "contraversial"!!! Fact 4. While explaining about the antient Macedonia, its kings etc. you highly support the claim for their Greek origin. I can give you 1000s of facts that that is not truth and I beleive that some Greek guy can give you 1000s facts that those claims are truth. That was 2400 years ago and there is no chanse for us to know the real situation. We can only guess. But, when you give the Greek suported version, why you ignore the version suported by the newaged Macedonians? In this moment I can give you 10 names of internationally respected scientist supporting our theory. If you are neutral, why you ignore it? Fact 5. Wikipedia says that the Turkish Empire were calling us Bulgarians. Strange, because the Turks were recognizing the uniqueness of our nation since the moment they occupied the teritory of Macedonia. Actually, the Turkish history archives are the biggest prove of our existance, history and culture. Did anyone of you ever read anything from those archives? Even on the birth certificate of Khemal Ataturk says that he is born in Bitola, Macedonia. And his autobiography is full of memories of his childhood spend with the Macedonians. Fact 6. Wikipedia ignores the egsodus of the Macedonian people from Greece and says they were running because they were supporters of the comunists. 1/3 of the Macedonians have origin from this part of Macedonia. They were runned away from there by force and you can find many historical proves for that. Again, big part of my family has origin from there. As a matter of fact, my grand-grand father was married to a Greek woman, my grand-grand mother. But, no matter of that, his house was burned and he was forced to run away for his life and the life of his family. How dare you deny this? Do you know that even today my grand father is not allowed to visit Greece, because he was a kid when his family runned away from there? Fact 7. There are about 500 000 Macedonians that live outside Macedonia, mostly in Canada, Australia, USA, Sweden etc. At least 1/3 moved there before 1930s. If we were a product of Tito, how can you explain that even they feel of Macedonian nationality? I have a family in USA which moved there in 1927th. Their ancestors (my cousins) do not even know how to talk Macedonian well. But, they still feel Macedonian. One of them is even one of the financiers of the party of the Macedonians in Bulgaria, trying to help their strugle to keep their national identity. I repeat, first time he visited Macedonia was in 1995th, far after Tito. And his family moved in USA in 1927th, far before Tito. Fact 8. Wikipedia claims that the book of Macedonian songs by Dimitar Miladinov is actually Bulgarian. Have you maybe seen a original copy of the book, printed in Croatia? IT says clearly "Macedonian". Not to mention that the same author wrote one of the most important books in the Macedonian history "For the Macedonian issues", again printed in Croatia, where it clearly talks about the Macedonian nation and non-Bulgarian origin.

All this was simply erased from the database. I didn't erase anything when editing these pages, I support the other side and I do not want to hide their facts. But why Wikipedia wants to hide our facts, which show that we are not a product of Tito's ambitions for the Aegean Sea. In Tito's time, the Yugoslav army was far superior in the region. If he wanted the Aegean Sea, he would get it very easily.

Many things in Wikipedia are very offensive for the nowdays Macedonians. Wikipedia simply ignores us, gives us a new name and supports the theories of denial of our existance, culture and history.

I will try to give you an example that includes with Mexico. I beleive that you know that the Maya civilisation was invaded by the Spanish kingdom. Spanish were ruling Mexico for centuries and millions of Spanish people moved at Mexican teritory. Later, after the liberation war, Mexicans formed its own country. Fact 1. Mayas were living in Mexico (same as Antique Macedonians). Fact 2. Spanish invaded them and great number of Spanish people moved to Mexico (The Slavs moved on the theritory of Macedonia and there was no reported fights or movements of people away from the teritory where the Slavs settled). Fact 3. Nowdays, everyone of the Mexican is aware that they are partly Spanish, but they still have Mayan origin (Wikipedia says that the people living in Republic of Macedonia are Slavs. When there was no reported resetling of the Antique Macedonians, how is possible they not to mix with the Slavs? It is a fact that the nowdays Macedonians are not same as the Antique Macedonians, but they certanly have a significant part of their genes. Same as I beleive that Greece has a part of their Genes, but they are definitly not their direct ancestors). Fact 4. Mexican speak Spanish. Reason: The Spanish culture was superior in that time. (The Antique Macedonians accepted the Helenic culture, including a variation of the Greek language. Reason: the Helenic culture was superior in that time. Everyone who knows at least little history will know that Hellenic and Greek are not synonims. Greek is nation, Hellenic is religion/culture. USA and England both speak English, both are mostly cristians, but they are SEPARATE nations. Aren't they? Same happens to Germany and Austria, or Serbia and Croatia, or Canada and France, or Brazil and Portugal, or the rest of Latin America and Spain)

And here is a comment about the claims of the Bulgarians, that the Macedonians are actually Bulgarians. If that is truth, I am going to kill myself. Bulgarians through the history made the worst for my nation. During the strugle of the Macedonian people for independence from the Turkish empire, at the end of the 19th and begginbing of the 20th century, the Bulgarians were the ones who killed the most of our revolutionaries, including 4 members of my close family which were members of the Macedonian revolutionary organization (VMRO). Whis is not something that I was told by Tito. My grandfather (the same grandfather from above) was in fact a member of the same organization. He personaly knew many of the revolutioners that Bulgarians claim are theirs, including 2 of the leaders: Goce Delcev and Gorce Petrov. They were Macedonians and they all gave their lives for free and independent Macedonia and they had nothing to do with Bulgaria. There was a part of them who were Bulgarians inserted in the organizations, who were actually the killers of the real Macedonian revolutioners, because it was in Bulgarian interest to weaken the organization, so they could take the lead in the organization and later put Macedonia in the hands of the Bulgarians. Thanks god, they did not succeed. Wikipedia claims that VMRO was pro-Bulgarian and the revolutioners were Bulgarian fighters. You suposed to see the face of my 94 year old grandfather when I told him your claims. Neurtal Wikipedia? I do not think so.

At the end I have to ask for Wikipedia NOT TO TAKE A SIDE IN THIS. I am not asking to remove the Greek and Bulgarian side of the story. But, why you ignore our claims, which are suported by many non-Greek and non-Bulgarian scientists and very largely through the web. There are just about 2-2.5 million Macedonians around the world. We do not have enought influence and strenght as Greece has, which is much more powerful and richer country than Macedonia. The Macedonian-Greek question is too hard and too complicated to solve. History can be interpreted in 1000 ways, especially on a teritory like the Balcany, where there are so many nations on so little space. Fortunately, DNA testings are getting more and more reliable and soon it will be possible to be used to acuratelly show the origin of our nations. I hope that then the denyal of me, my history, culture and existance will finaly stop. It is very disapointing that Wikipedia takes a part in all that.

With all the respect, Igor Šterbinski Skopje, Macedonia is@on.net.mk

[edit] Fast reverting

How did you revert the edits of 203.59.163.34 so quickly? --Commander Keane 10:33, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How am I finding it?

A bit crap, actually. I'd like to see more of the "old crowd" back. Deb 14:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Verifiability#Obscure_topics

Oliver,
I'm changing this [1] to a different version. I'll place a comment on the talk page when I do, happy to discuss it there.
brenneman ^(t)^(c) 02:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfC related to Verifiablity and Reputable Sources

Please check out and comment on the Rfc filed against me for trying to have NBP libel about me removed. Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/69.253.195.228

[edit] Emma Watson

Hello. Actress, as you can see, redirects to actor. It's my understanding of Wikipedia style that piped links are supposed to be used as minimally as possible. Any reason you keep changing it? Radio Kirk talk to me 22:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I have been pointed here. I sit corrected. :) Radio Kirk talk to me 04:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the note. As you can see above, I've already conceded I was wrong. :) Radio Kirk talk to me 22:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

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