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[edit] Psychiatric diagnosis

"Psychiatric diagnosis The notion that psychological problems are symptoms of a chemical imbalance is a conjecture based on incomplete evidence. Psychiatrists do not test for chemical balances or imbalances in the brain, nor is there any known such test. The etiology of psychopathology might be exclusively in the body, exclusively in the mind, or in some combination of both."

I agree with this, but it seems to be a non sequitur in the context. Is this perhaps implying that etiologies based on organic dysfunction are fictional in the sense that they are quackery? I'd agree with that too - to some extent - but I'm not sure it's NPOV and I'm not sure the context is appropriate. Matthew Platts 15:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

No. Quackery is a pejorative term for bad medicine. An object of the mind is not false or fictional, simpy by being a mental object. Mental objects may be truthful or deceptive. "Quackery" is a POV term; "object of the mind" is a neutral term. Oneismany 20:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I've changed the title of the subsection to 'Pseudoscience' and added a second example of the same kind. Oneismany 21:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mathematical objects

Query - the article seems to imply, incorrectly, that there is no such thing as a physical Mobius strip. Does anyone else think this is what's implied? Matthew Platts 15:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

If you think that this is what the article implies, please improve the article with more information about physical mobius strips. The point is supposed to be that there is this mathematical object, the mobius strip, which like a triangle or a circle, is an abstraction. Yes there are physical mobius strips, just as there are physical triangles and circles. But these things are not the abstraction. The 'perfect' circle or triangle or mobius strip which the math describes, is not physical. Oneismany 20:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I've revised this section to reflect the above considerations. Discussion? Oneismany 21:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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