Talk:New Brunswick, New Jersey
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[edit] Error on Page
The caption identifying the corner of Bayard and George St is innaccurate, its actually the southeast corner of Patterson and George. Just throwing it out there.Davepetr 02:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
This article fails to state the undeniable positive effects of urban renewal (i.e. job creation and better quality of life). Furthermore, it fails to mention New Brunswick's commitment to lower income housing. Even luxury buildings such as Sklyine Tower have both market rate and affordable housing. Once the article mentions the positive effects of redevelopment along with the "controversy" the tag should be taken down.
- I think the increase in New Brunswick's homelessness problem, the increased demands on local food banks and food kitchens, and other signs of poverty negate any claims of "better quality of life." For many, and there are many lower-class people in New Brunswick, housing prices are far from affordable. They're practically unattainable. You don't happen to work for the city, or DevCo, do you? Only they look through such rose-tinted eyeglasses. —ExplorerCDT 15:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- When the tax base is higher, more revenue is available for social services. The new housing may increase the disparity between the richest and poorest residing in New Brunswick, but when the pie gets bigger, your slice has the potential to get bigger. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 16:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Potential. Not reality. The city's tax base...because the city council gave DevCo a free ride practically on property taxes for the next 30 years...will never go higher. The revenues from these ratables will likely not be realized in our lifetimes. The properties DevCo develops are given tax levies of cents on the dollar. And like most New Brunswick political legacies, the money won't go for social services...it'll buy Jim Cahill (or his successor) a boat, fix up his house, and line other party bosses' pockets. And the end result...New Brunswick's problems never get fixed, only worsen but to accentuate the positive all the pretty buildings mean that the undesirables (blacks, hispanics, poor people) get pushed out of downtown...but right onto the sidewalk. —ExplorerCDT 16:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Okay, can of worms here… to respond to the DevCo employee:
- 1. Cite a source or a specific number on job creation and add it to the article. Say something like “Between 1970 and 2000, New Brunswick has added ____ jobs” or “the unemployment rate has dropped from ___ % to ___ %.” Those are facts that could balance out the links to the negative Targum articles. That urban renewal (either as a process in general or how it plays out in NB) is “undeniably positive” is not NPOV though.
- 2. “Quality of life” is a meaningless buzzword. It is, as somebody pointed out below, more appropriate for a promotional advertisement than an encyclopedia article. Instead, cite a specific fact, e.g. “crime reduced from a rate of ___ to a rate of ___” or “school scores improved from ___ to ___.”
- 3. Again, you can add a note that some of the new projects include subsidized units, but don’t pepper it with inappropriate language you were using before like “this is a shining example of urban renewal.”
- 4. The redevelopment process IS controversial. I don’t think the article should convey that DevCo or NB's redevelopment is “good” or “bad,” but it should convey that DevCo and the redevelopment process have been politically contested by a number of groups. Passdoubt | Talk 11:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hello, NPOV?
This is a wikipedia article, not a tourism/investment brochure.128.6.168.245 01:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Famous Residents
I believe Cornelius Vanderbilt once lived in New Brunswick and his son, William Henry, was born there.--Buzava 21:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
