Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-10 Carmen Electra
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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-06-10 Carmen Electra
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[edit] Request Information
- Request made by: Nick Dillinger 20:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Where is the issue taking place?
- Dispute over the inclusion of a fair use image. I uploaded a picture of her mugshot, which is public domain. Upon furthur review, the image was POV and unfair to her as it portrays her in a negative light, so a movie screenshot was uploaded. Through edit wars, her images have been placed on the page, and frequently removed, changed etc.
- Who's involved?
- Wahkeenah, ed g2s, Abu Badali, Nick Dillinger
- What's going on?
- Nick and Wahkeenah want both pictures, but Wahkeenah would settle for the mugshot being deleted. Ed and Abu want the screenshot deleted because a public domain image is available. Nick and Wahkeenah believe their interpetation of the Fair use criteria is incorrect.
- What would you like to change about that?
- Have this settled, preferably with both images included.
- If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
- ...
- Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?
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- This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
- what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.
- Yes
[edit] Mediator response
[edit] Evidence
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[edit] Compromise offers
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[edit] Comments by others
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- Comment: The point in not accepting the screenshot is that, as we have a free alternative (the p.d. mugshot), we can't claim fair use. (Actually, claiming f.u. on screenshots, magazine covers, etc. to illustrate the article on the person depicted is dubious). I believe that abusing f.u. is the lazy man's path. By refusing such images, we went to work and found a new free image of her, that is now used in the article. The same story and (happy end) and has happenned before on Halle Berry. --Abu Badali 17:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
