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the Violin article

I tried to fix vandalism, but I mistakenly reverted to the current version. 70.20.238.245 11:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Luna

I'm a new kid on the block here

everything seems to be so hard to use!!!!

thanks for contacting me

best wishes

Lala

Please vote more clearly so we get the right outcome

Could I ask you to return to the discussion on deletion of multiracial categories and vote using a clearer word, ie delete, as it is touch and go that the right outcome is going to be achieved. The link is at [1] Thank you. Chicheley 22:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Thanks for reverting the recent vandalism to my userpage :). Fabricationary 03:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

grouping attendants

Hello Luna,

Concerning the group of users issue in the village pump, I answered you. I also started a talk page dedicated to the topic, for further outlooks. Please come at this page as a follow-up.

Yours,

Lilliputian 12:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi lad,

I have another topic. Should you know people who could deal with it, please let me know.--Lilliputian 13:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

My RfA result's back... I'm positive!

		Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA!
		To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 02:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the trust you put in me, I won't let you down. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 02:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Thanks for your patience in answering my help desk questions! JianLi 03:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

English translation of a dutch sentence

Well I need the help with the translation of a sentence from a page I am using as a reference. I can not get any meaningful translation from babelfish and the Dutch wikipedia people don't seem to have the helpme tag. I hope someone here itself could help me then.

I hope you could help me find someone who can translate this sentence: Kelly’s grootste doorbraak maakt ze als deelneemster van Big Brother the Battle (derde editie, 2001). Unitedroad 11:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I could do with this help because noone at the Dutch wikipedia that I contacted seems to be responding. Unitedroad 11:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Mate I would obliged if you can help me with it. Waiting for your reply Unitedroad 11:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation: Kelly's biggest breakthrough she made as a participant in Big Brother the Battle (third edition, 2001).

Heh heh, DVC, eh?

I'm studying right over the hill at Contra Costa College, nice to know there's more than one Wikipedian from the Contra Costa Community College District ;) FCYTravis 19:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi there! Thanks so much for helping out with the table! hoopydink^{Conas tá tú?} 22:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg

Luna:

As per your note, I uploaded a new image and used the pull-down menu to mark it as a public domain (US government image). I kept the same name but told wiki to delete the former.

However, when I look at the image, the message about copyright still shows up. Did I properly tage the new version? Does it take a few days for the system to replace the old version with the new? I'm still new to this game but intend to occasionally write articles in the future.

--Johnfmh 09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)John

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NHC-logo-grayscale-1.jpg

Cool beans. I did it. Thanks Luna. Very simple once I got it. Perfect. --Johnfmh 09:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Thanks for fixing that. I've been having a lot of problems lately with that Firefox and Google toolbar bug.--PiMaster3 15:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Ohio State University people

I received this mail from you:

It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed content from List of Ohio State University people. Please be careful not to remove content from Wikipedia without a valid reason, which you should specify in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Luna Santin 16:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:70.227.193.40"

Check your sources before you post information!! Your service(s) to the community are embarassing and you are precluding me from obviating interaction with you!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.227.193.40 (talk • contribs) .

Moved from suggestions page. Replied at your talk page. Luna Santin 17:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk Page

I'm some what of a new user. I'm figuring things out - slowly.
How do I create a talk page and how do I put my text on a new line without all the br /.

--SacredVisions 00:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Third party for the "Talk page" affaire

Thanks for your answer on the Help Desk page, it really helped me :). Now I would issue a warning but I would rather have someone else do it, so I won't look like I'm after him specifically.

Thanks! --Aristiana 22:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

As you were replying in my talk page I was reverting. So consider it done! Thanks again. --Aristiana 22:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

reno 911

i apologize.

Thanks

Thanks for the Info! --SacredVisions 18:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

"rmvd advert link" (article "Hermit")

Hi, Luna, I was surprised at your reason for removing the link. I had a quick look at it and did not get the impression that its purpose is "advert". So, I would not remove it for this reason. But same quick look also did not convince me that it is a presentation suitable in this context. Should this link not go into the Carthusian article? (Em, I haven't checked but assume Wikipedia has one on the Carthusians.) 19:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll reply both here and on your talk page, to hopefully be sure you see it. More than happy to discuss -- if you're curious, have a look at my recent contribs, and you should see that I spent a decent chunk of last night removing quite a few links to that website. Then, if you like, have a look at 203.97.0.38's contribs, and you'll see that they spent the past two or three months adding around forty references to what appears to be their personal website. Articles exploring the symbolic links between Jesus and the Hiroshima bombings surely can't have a high encyclopedic relevance to quite that many articles, no? If there was an article the site was truly relevant to, we might point to a specific article, though I admit I'm not optimistic in that regard. Thanks for contacting me, Luna Santin 20:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Removal of links to www.liturgy.co.nz

Greetings Luna

I think there may have been a number of misunderstandings. I think you went to the Hiroshima page where you found a link to a page on my site which relates World Peace Day, Hiroshima Day, and the Feast of the Transfiguration (August 6). You then made the call that this is not of encyclopaedic value - others might judge differently, that is not my point. You then went on to a number of other pages on the assumption, I think, that the links went merely to the Hiroshima page. They did not. Had you looked at the link, you would have seen they go to different pages appropriate to the subject IMO.

You have removed all the links from all the pages.

There was a link from "Liturgy", for example. Having removed the link to www.liturgy.co.nz which presents contemporary liturgical theory and practice, what is left in Wikipedia is a link to "Catholic Encyclopedia" written in 1908! And a link to the Quakers who are explicitly non-liturgical! I am new at all this, and realise I may not have understood and followed all appropriate protocols, and I apologise for that. However, I think the removal of all links to www.liturgy.co.nz is surprisingly over-reacting. There is nothing being advertised on that site. And I can assure you, in tracking visitors to the site from Wikipedia, that those who arrive on www.liturgy.co.nz visit a considerable number of pages, spend significant time on what they sometimes feed-back to have been a helpful resource, and make return visits.

Most of the alterations to Wikipedia sites attributed to the IP address are not mine. I realise it may be better if I create an account, and now understand that I would have been better off placing my link through the discussion areas on a page. However, I still consider the removal of all links, without having looked around www.liturgy.co.nz more carefully, also a bit strong, and hope you will consider restoring them.

With every best wish

203.97.0.38 05:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Sabado Gigante

Hi... and Sorry!

I forgot sign in to edit pages... so i´m not a vandal! So, edit & redir in Sabado Gigante page is because in spanish the name is "Sábado Gigante", but not is in english (the "á" type in english not exist!

Please include the correct name in Wiki... for everybody and not only spanish users!

Bye... raulpt

please don't use VP as a license to revert all anons blindly

Thank you--71.249.1.156 11:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Will reply both here and on your talk page. That assumes I was blind. I will apologize for using VP, if that implies to you that the edit was vandalism, but your redirect is not appropriate, as New York is far from being the only city with a subway system, and the tone of your edit summary [2] was far from civil. Luna Santin 12:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• Well, I avoided the assumption that you were enaging in willing vandalism, my mistake, since mass transit is not a form of subway, and the redirect was created just to subvert consensus on subway, and was created by someone who seems to have over 60 blocks for disruption, I was tempted just to speedy it--71.249.1.156 12:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• OHNOZ HE CALLED ME A VANDAL. Seriously, you'll get a much better reaction from people if you don't open up with a full offensive, from the get-go. We're all people, we all make mistakes. Both of us have made one or two, here. Just for your own future reference, when you're acting on talk page consensus (doubly so when it's another article's talk page), it never hurts to say so. I honestly would not have reverted, if you had -- discussed, probably, but not immediately reverted. I review over a thousand edits a day, and I have to make a judgement call with the best information I have available; it really isn't reasonable to expect RC patrollers to go hunting for all related talk pages, so I do have to ask you to bear that in mind, just for your future editing. Before you ask, yes, I'll be chalking this down as an error in my log. Luna Santin 12:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Um, hi, this is all a bit confusing!! I'd love to start helping Wikipedia and thank you for welcoming me. Is this all done through the site? Or are some members on IM's to each other? COuln't find that in the FAQ.... I would say more but I'm not even sure I'm actually talking to someone, or editing a page...lol

Thanks for your Help

Thanks for your help in adding Resident Evil Orchestra to the Resident Evil Template and linking me to those useful articles :)
--MikeTheRaptor 22:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For reverting vandalism to my user talk page :) Mushroom (Talk) 12:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

straw poll

Good idea - for the reasons you provided - but probably won't work - for the reasons he provided... "Wikipedia is no democracy". We've had several polls in the past, to no avail. My latest attempt is new... zeroing in on a fundamental logical inconsistency in his own argument. Since logical consistency is what he uses as his defense, showing that his own position lacks it may prove to be effective. Your help in doing so would be appreciated... --Serge 16:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome message! --TheM62Manchester 11:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

my addition to cocaine

This is from personal observations of the club scene in Scottsdale AZ. Do you need supporting articles for this new behvaior whic his ruining upper middle class families pumped up by inflated housing values and stressed out lives... I can find some ... do I justify it to you?

Welcome note

Hello. I don't know if this was an automatically generated message from you, but it is anyway polite to say thanks :o) PajaBG 12:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help...

		The Formatting/Technology Barnstar
		I give you this barnstar in recogntion of all the help you provide to users regarding formatting help - I'm sure I'm not the only user you've helped. Cheers, Killfest2—Daniel.Bryant 12:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

 ?

What is RfA? --SacredVisions 00:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

County Watch Vandals

It is not a test they are vandals no restore it. And stop interwffing with edits you quite clearly do not understand.--84.9.195.114 11:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

They are not good faith edits. The vandals know full well that what they are doing is incorrect. That they remove comments reporting it is evidence of that. Is typical of them. The are a bunch of propagandist at best.--84.9.195.114 12:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Username entered already in use.

Yep it's probably him. But the thing is, he used it AFTER the block expired. As he pointed out, there is nothing wrong with starting another account as long as he isn't trying to get around a ban and he wasn't. As for Bbnsv, it's iffy. I'm going to request a checkuser later today. If that was him, than he was indeed trying to get around a block. I do find it quite odd that he suddenly stopped editing with his other account. --Woohookitty^(meow) 21:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the cites and input, much appreciated! Congirl 22:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC) Congirl

HTML

Yes, I had checked the "raw signature" box, but when I, just to make sure, unchecked and checked the box, it worked, for some reason.

What the heck? Now it's not working again (by that I mean my signature)...this is getting a bit creepy. You know, "creepy" is a pretty cool word. I could go on and on about how great it is all day. Yup. Llama man

Thanks, your suggestion worked! Of course, this is only a small step for llamas and a giant step for llamakind! Currently, though, the llamas are busy defeating evil oatmeal cookies who plot to take over the world with mustard of doom in their chocolate chips! -TheGreatLlama 00:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

A Reverted Edit in Latin Conjugation

In Latin conjugation, you reverted my edits (I wasn't logged in). Yes, I know. I know; it's taking a long time, but I edited it so that the article would explain the four conjugations' principle parts better. I will continue working on that section in a wordpad file. Once I'm finished, I'd like to paste it in the article. Thanks for your time! That article needed some heavy revamping from its start. Bye. --Blurrzuki 05:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and there was no offense taken. I'll edit in notepad, so I don't have to remove large sections. Thanks again. --Blurrzuki 13:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

County edits

Hi, just thought you might want to know that 84.9.xxx.xxx is the favoured IP range of the permanently banned User:Irate, who is well-known for causing trouble around articles, templates etc. related to UK counties, and for his curious interpretation of "vandalism". Sorry you got caught up with him! --RFBailey 09:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

For the sake of your own sanity, I'd advise staying out of it! Various people have tried and failed to resolve this, and related, disputes: there are entrenched opinions on both sides, who both "know" that they're right(!). --RFBailey 14:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Warning

This is your last warning. If you continue to make vandalism on the article minarchism or trollic actions on my user talk page, you may be blocked for disruption. --Forget it. 07:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• Note -- this was reported to AN/I and the user has been subsequently blocked. See their talk page and contribs for other details. Luna Santin 08:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

We'll get him stopped. I don't know why users like him think that they can get away with this stuff. --Woohookitty^(meow) 10:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy help

The redirects I created do seem to work now (all pointing to Artists' Books). Could it be that they take a few minutes to register properly on the server? They definitely were doing weird double loop-di-loops for a few minutes after I created them. In any case THANKS for the help. You're right - that is fast. Emily Artinian 10:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

University of Dundee

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Dundee

It seems you have "reverted" back to a previous version of this page using VP?

Please note that the University of Dundee Logo is displayed on this page. This image is copyright and should not be displayed without permission. It may be that permission has been granted (I suspect not) in which case it would be good to show that this is the case. The image University of Dundee logo displayed on Wikipedia appears distorted and does not show the "protected area" of whitespace around the logo.

Thanks for the help

Well, it's good to see that someone agrees with me, but I'm still annoyed by the anonymity of the user who slapped me with the vandalism tag. BTW, I've been editing WP for about two years now - the welcome box was nice, but a little unnecessary ^_^ CNash 12:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Ok thanks, no problem, but where has my page gone exactly? I hope everything I wrote hasn't been deleted

Alex

Oh ok no problem! Thanks for the welcome :-)

All the best,

Alex

Commercial link

The link "Article about key loggers and trojan horses" from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging is commercial. Please remove it. You can see that this article ended with links to commercial software(see "Related links"). This link is not true article.

Ignatieff article

Hi Luna,

Thanks for your comments on the Ignatieff article. At present, there's a difference of opinion over whether the removed section should be included. Since the section reads as a personal attack, many of us feel that the information should be properly sourced and verified before inclusion. The talk page has more details, if you're so inclined.

No worries about the confusion. I'll try to be more thorough in my edit summaries. :) 198.20.40.50 22:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I made some derogatory remarks on the ambedkar page due to derogatory remarks made by an "ambedkarite" jamnadas, a pseudo-intellectual who is known for his anti=-hindu propaganda.His artcile on BG Tilak was added to the TIlak entry as the "dalit view of Tilak." This entry is very offensive towards followers of TIlak's ideologies, like myself. The Jamnadas article does not cite sources and only reflects one person's view. In fact, the "dalit view on TIlak" isnt important enough to be included in a wikipedia entry on TIlak. I realize i shouldnt have vandalized the ambedkar page. It was done in a fit of passion as I was offended by their views. However, i beleive my trying to delete the dalit view of tilak section is justified. please do resolve this ASAP —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.152.144.21 (talk • contribs) 2 August 2006.

No title

Tell him stop steal home page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.136.222.198 (talk • contribs) 3 August 2006.

Citations?

Hi Luna,

I thought that you weren't supposed to put something up on Wikipedia unless it had been published elsewhere.

I added the entries "Jugnu Mohsin" and "Ejaz Haider" thinking that to be the case, but didn't know how to link the entries to the original websites from which I'd basically copied and pasted the information.

How does this work? How does one prove that the information has already been published and how does add a citation?

Cheers, Imad Imaduddin 11:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

*poke*

'allo, Luna.

Hope your editing is going well. Keep those vandals away! *whips out her pepper spray and garlic*

Also, Luna rawks the socks.

<3 Midnight Critter 08:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

keylogger article

Greetings Luna,

I am responding to your deleting of my helpful external link. You asked me to justify the encylopedic value fo this link. I think it is one of many examples of this type of software. As an IT manager for my company, I have tested many of these types of programs and this is the one we deployed several times when an employee was suspected of fraudulant activities.

I am new to wikipedia and obviously not as active as you are. However, I believe the link is valuable. I would also like to ask you, what is the encylopedic value of the other external links? Most importantly:

http://www.monitoringsoftwarereviews.org/ which is clearly a commercial site that is selling many types of these programs under affiliate programs.

The link I am proposing is a direct example of what is already mentioned on the article "and additionally, some programs also record or take snapshots of what is displayed on the screen."

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cheezyd (talk • contribs) 4 August 2006.

Thanks

Thanks for your kind welcome :) I only use this ID to make articles though and prefer editing under my IP so people can be sure where I am from. Mema435 13:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

keylogger article edits

Hi thank you for your reply.

I agree, that spam is a problem in all forms, including wiki spam. I read the guidelines for external links as you suggested and I see what you are getting at. I also agree that the link I added is to a site selling something. It is the web site of a company. By design, all companies sell something.

From searching around previously, I could not find any open source or freeware versions of this type of software. If an open source (not for profit) existed, I think it would be a better choice as a link.

While I haven’t edited any wikipedia articles until now, I have used wikipedia for a very long time. I have noticed that many wikipedia articles link externally to company web sites. And, as I pointed out, all of these companies are in the business of selling products or services. For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_stock has links to both Kodak and Fuji web sites which sell film.

Or, for something closer to the topic we are discussing…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware links to Lavasoft and Safer Networking (under Software). Both companies sell software to prevent spyware. Under a strict interpretation of the external link guidelines, both of these should be removed.

However, I do think they have value. Users come here for information. And it is reasonable to assume that some of the people looking up “spyware” actually have spyware on their machines and need help getting rid of it. In which case, the article would not only inform them, but also help them. Which I think is great.

By the same token, someone looking up keyloggers could either be a scholar or a person who needs one. In a paper encyclopedia, under “snake”, the best you can do is have a picture of a snake. But wouldn’t it be cooler to have a piece of snake skin too? This is, in my opinion, the best part of wikipedia. The ability to provide “real” examples. Either by embedded pictures, sound or video, or by linking to external sites. As a result, I think an external link to a site with keylogging software would improve the article. And that is what we are here for isn’t it? To improve the articles?

To be honest, this will probably be the last time I edit an article. While I usually view debate and discussion as a good thing, in this case I didn’t expect to spend so much time defending my small, first time, edit. I can only imagine this probably goes on quite a bit so maybe being an editor is biting of more than I can chew.

You seem to have adopted this article and are very protective of it. So I will leave it up to you. Change my link if you want to. Delete it if you want to. I believe it has merit.

Regard,

CheezyD

IT WOULD HELP

if you read all of what has been going on on my talk page.

And my question got awnsered.... by ME!!!

have a nice day,--Missingno. 21:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)