Talk:Los Angeles International Airport

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Contents 1 LA and LP 2 Incident Section 3 AVIANCA 4 Noise lawsuits 5 Runways 6 LAX to LGA Direct Flights

I think it looks great! Danny 04:11 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Miles and miles of whitespace just bugs me - it makes a visual desert. The very simple justified table takes care of that. --mav

I can’t believe there’s no photo of the LAX sign – I’ll try to get one when I should be in LA next in May. Monucg 02:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I added a picture of the LAX sign when one enters off of Century Blvd. Flo

Probably a stupid question, but... what does the "X" stand for in "LAX"? Does it simply mean "International airport" and if yes, why is it "X" instead of "IA"?

LAX is the airport's three letter IATA identification code. see this Wikipedia article.

[edit] LA and LP

I have a question - I notice that all international airline listings include even direct destinations, but domestic ones do not. For instance, LAN lists Lima, Santiago and Buenos Aires, even though the last two are not nonstop. Under Southwest, though, I only see nonstop destinations. What's the reasoning?

This is how I understand WikiProject Airports. We list only direct destinations, non-stop or not. This means having the same flight number. However, one will NOT list a city if the route passes through a hub first, so that's what happens to "faux" direct flights, usually with a plane change. Examples are like UA 915 CDG-IAD-SFO, where there is a plane change in IAD. So the CDG article only lists IAD but not SFO because the route passes through a UA hub (IAD). Therefore, with the same reasoning, I removed EZE but not LIM from the LA 601 LAX-LIM-SCL-EZE because the hub is Santiago (LAN Airlines). I also removed GRU from the LP 605 LAX-LIM-GRU flight because the hub is Lima (LAN Peru). Elektrik Blue 82 18:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Would this mean, then, that all the Southwest Airlines destinations would count as well (i.e, a flight that went from LAX-ABQ-Amarillo, or something similar)? What constitutes a Southwest hub?

I have to admit I am not familiar with the business plan of Southwest. You better ask other Wikipedians for advise on this one. The only thing I know is they do not operate a hub-and-spoke system similar to other legacy carriers. Elektrik Blue 82 23:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Quite frankly, I wouldn't remove references to direct destinations as long as they are not change-of-gauge flights. On the LAN flights you are staying in the same seat on the same airplane the whole time, not getting off one plane and on another.

There are flights where it is simply a "timetable-direct" flight, but there is a change of planes. Frankly, I have no idea how to tell whether the plane will change or not, sometimes the Yahoo! timetables indicate it, sometimes it doesn't. I guess the rule of thumb I am following here is that once the airplane touches down at a hub of the airline, then everything else will not be listed. Elektrik Blue 82 08:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

If it is an international flight that does not change gauge, I would list it. What I believe we should not list are international flights that require a change of plane, or domestic "direct" flights that pass through an airline's hub and only incidentally happen to connect two points in a "direct" fashion. Direct flights that miss a hub, like AA's old AUS-HOU-LGA, should probably list both destinations. FCYTravis 02:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incident Section

I don't understand why rather minor incidents like the jetBlue gear failure and the Air India tire blowout are being included. It is not as if we are including all the incidents through out LAX history where planes have run into each other and ripped holes in wings because of the tight infrastructure at the airport. Only deadly incidents or complete hull losses should be included

[edit] AVIANCA

I looked at Avianca's website and did not see LAX on the route map. Is this a planned route?

Avianca already flies the route, AV 48/49 BOG-LAX-BOG. Elektrik Blue 82 21:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Noise lawsuits

There used to be residential neighborhoods right up to the property line, on the north side. After a lawsuit, in (I believe) the 1960s or 1970s, the houses were bought up and the homes razed, forming a noise buffer zone. It looks bizarre to see the remaining streets, sidewalks, trees, and streetlamps with no homes! Maybe it is still that way; I haven't flown out of LAX since 1992, though. Hi

[edit] Runways

I don't know much about airports, but it seems to me that the length of LAX's runways (the longest? the longest in the US?) is significant because flights with serious malfunctions are redirected there (like the recent JetBlue flight).

'They're the longest runways in Southern California because they have to handle large widebody jets such as the 747 and later the A380. Starcity ai 02:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LAX to LGA Direct Flights

• There are NO DIRECT flights on Delta from LAX to LGA! I have checked BOTH www.oag.com and www.delta.com and there are no direct flights to LGA on Delta. The Port Authority does not permit transcontinental flights to LGA due to noise limits and congestion. I live 10 minutes from LGA and the Delta counter there reconfirmed this when I inquired last week. Please visit http://www.delta.com/schedules/travel/reservations/flight_sched/index.jsp and search every Saturday from November 2006 and December 2006. THERE ARE NO DIRECT FLIGHTS! All flights connect in CVG. Delta's website is much more accurate than OAG. OAG is not 100% reliable. --XLR8TION 22:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
  • So I guess this flight doesn't really exist? DB (talk) 00:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)