Talk:List of Ontario municipalities
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To GaryWill's edits: District in some places is synonymous with Region. The term needs to be clarified because Ontario's municipal structure is all ready screwed up and confusing enough without using terms people can misconstrue. This is a big problem with Ontario government propaganda. Wiki is not part of the Government Propaganda Machine.WikiWoo 21:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- What's the point of this list? It's pretty much the same as List of census subdivisions in Ontario. --
Earl Andrew - talk 21:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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- This is the municipal structure of Ontario with the Single and Double Tier municipalities categorized. Ontario has a very complicated patched up network of different structures not found in many other places of the world. I initially refered to it as the "unique structure of Ontario" and this has been evolving from there. The Census Divisions as a list is something different and it lacks any informative structure.WikiWoo 21:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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To OsgoodeLawyer: I had all Single-Tier together in one list. You kept saying they are not all single tier. I prooved you wrong. So now you want to confuse which is single tier and which is within or (under as some people might read it) a district. In the US and other places District are like Regional Government and you are perpetuating the propaganda by confusion out Municipal Master create in Ontario to keep everyone confused. We have a confused municipal structure on purpose because it facilitates corruption in our municipal government levels by our non-elected senior administrators in power for life.WikiWoo 22:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- WikiWoo: the list CLEARLY states what is a single tier and what is dual tier in the first-rank headings. You don't need to reiterate that in the second-rank headings. If you want to make things clearer, what you should be doing is writing a blurb about each type under the heading. That way the headings, which are already unambigous, despite what you claim, can stay simple and you can get your point across that districts are not counties. (Although this is already stated in one of the paragraphs--how many times do you intend to state the same thing in your work?) OzLawyer 22:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Ok the way you have it now is less ambigious. I am not sure about the part that none of the ones you have listed as found in districts where never double tiers. There was a lot of activity with municipalities going single tier that were under other tiers over the last 10 years and the list keeps getting longer as more of them go Single-Tier. Where did you get the part about each of those never being under another tier? Muskoka for one had separation that I recall. I can't find the source of you info for your list. WikiWoo 23:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Are these municipalities?
Neither the government site [1] nor AMO [2] list these as municipalities: Akron, Wawa, Shedden, Searchmont -- all in Algoma District. Do we have better information that says they are municipalities? --Gary Will 04:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- I know for a fact that Wawa is in Michipicoten Township. I think the others are also in townships. -- Earl Andrew - talk 04:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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- At the bottom of the MAH link is this Disclaimer... The information is provided as a public service and is not an official list of municipal names. Although we endeavor to ensure that the information is as current and accurate as possible, errors do occasionally occur. Therefore, we cannot guarantee the accuracy of the information. Readers should verify the information before acting on it by contacting municipalities directly to confirm official municipal names. Although the list has been carefully prepared, the Ministry does not accept any legal responsibility for the contents of the list or for any consequences, including direct or indirect liability, arising from its use. This is the disclamer on the Ontario Ministry of Municipal Affairs. They created them and even THEY don't know for sure what has been accumulated of the years in the close to 500 municipalities in Ontario they created...Says a lot about Ontario's Municipal Affairs, hey?. As far as AMO is concerned I would not trust a word they say or publish as an association. It's basically a group of Publicly Employed Gangsters. Ask the Mayor of Toronto David Miller even he said so. Its a self-serving club of corrupt bureaucrats and the politicians that bend over to serve them.WikiWoo 05:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Don't be foolish. Wawa has never been a municipality. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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- I've taken the four off the list, and that gives us 445 municipalities, which is how many the government and AMO say there are. --Gary Will 14:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recently deleted See also link
This link goes to a page which is a recreation of one which was recently deleted through AfD. It has a slightly different name, but it is clearly the same article. As such, it will be deleted. In addition, if anything could be done to save that page (but seeing as it's a recreation of a deleted page, it should be speedied), it would be adding information which would be better on this page. OzLawyer 15:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "found within..."
First off, it is incorrect to speak of being found in "census divisions" because that would imply that the counties and RMs are not census divisions themselves, and they are. And secondly, why do you keep insisting on reiterating the same information in your edits? The fact that districts are not municipalities is already clearly stated in the article. We don't need to keep saying the same thing over and over. I assure you that people can read. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
