Talk:Lincoln Continental
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Dear Morven and Wiki-coauthors,
This is an excellent entry, I have only one remark:
Continental (Mark II) was a separate marque and it should be a separate entry, leaving here just the reference to the said entry. (Otherwise, it would be hard to understand why "Continental" is mentioned in the "List of automobile manufacturers" on its own.)
Regards, --Millisits 21:27, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I think the single paragraph here on the Mark II should be fine, though it might need to be a bit more obvious about Continental being its own marque. Lots of people (incorrectly) think the Mark II was a Lincoln, so they might come to this page to learn about it. We link to the Continental Mark II entry for people to learn more. I do think a Continental (automobile) page should be written and linked to. I might do that later today. —Morven 00:45, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
I have some doubts about the latest Mark II edit. It misstates the price of the Eldo Brougham seriously--we already have better info in the Cadillac Eldorado article. And I don't believe either Ford or GM ever confirmed that the two cars were meant to compete with each other. The Eldo Brougham, being a four-door and much more expensive, was not a good match for the Mark. The Eldorado Seville coupe was a much more logical competitor. RivGuySC 04:01, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I agree, plus we already have an article on the Mark II and should not go into such detail here. —Morven 08:25, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the addition says that it was the becoming a publically traded company that inspired the creation of Continental, when I've read it was quite the opposite; the publically traded company couldn't take the losses (in terms of accountability, not in terms of not being able to bear them financially) and killed the project. —Morven 08:29, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Mark references
Even though the Mark was sold as Lincoln Continental Mark, the Mark was a seperate model and has a seperate article that discusses all Marks from the 1956 Continental Mark II to the 1998 Lincoln Mark VIII. While references to the Mark make sense, two sections dedicted for the Mark do not, the Continental name applies to the four-door flagship in this article. Thanks. Gerdbrendel 22:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Discontinuation
Can anyone defend the assertion under the 1998 heading that the car was discontinued "because of confusion with the Bentley Continental"--? I'd like to see the buyer so addlepated he couldn't tell the two apart! :-) RivGuySC 01:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Funny explaination. But I replaced it with the "real one." According to Lincoln the Continental wasn't different enough from the Town Car and LS, even though it was quite smaller than the former and the company's only front wheel drive car in the line-up. Signaturebrendel 01:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Take Me Higher
Your contribution confuses me. Maybe you could revise it or explain it? Bok269 18:04, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Coupe
Information relating to the years of the Continental Coupe as an option should be included.
[edit] 1977-1979 Lincoln Continental
The claims made at the end of the 1970 Lincoln Continental section left me puzzled. After G.M. downsized in 1977 the Lincoln Continental was the largest car of the market until Lincoln downsized in 1980. It was 233 inches long rather than 225 inches as claimed. It was 225 inches long from 1970 through 1972 but acquired 5 mph bumbers in front in 1973 and in the rear in 1974 (as all cars did). Thus it was the longest car made from 1977 through 1979. It also had the longest wheelbase (127") and widest track (64.3") of any car made during this period of time. And finally, it was easily the roomiest car made at this time, with 111 and 115 cubic feet of passenger space as a coupe and sedan respectively, along with a trunk having 23 cubic feet of space (by E.P.A. standards). I suspect the author of attributing too much weight to length (no pun intended) and although the 1977-1979 Lincoln Continental was the longest car made during this period, he was not aware of this fact. Width, volume (especially shoulder room), track width and weight are (in my opinion) the characteristics that make large cars large. With the exception of the track width of the pre-downsized full-sized Big Three and the front seat shoulder room of the 1977-1978 Oldsmobile Toronado, all the cars of this period were smaller by these citeria, when compared to the 57-66 Imperials, the neglected (especially in this article) 58-60 Lincolns, as well as the 1971-1976 G.M. C-bodies (and, not counting the tacked-on 5 mph bumpers, these cars were in fact longer). The Mark V, especially, is an extreme expression of the impactical styling of the time. It was based on Ford's bloated pre-downsized mid-sized platform and consequently, despite its prodigious length (all bumbers and elongated hood) and weight, was actually relatively puny in terms of, shoulder room, headroom , rear seat legroom and trunk space. It earns the distinction of being perhaps the heaviest and longest (and most gas-guzzling) midsize (by E.P.A. standards) coupes of all times. I am a huge fan (not literally) of the largest automobiles and own three (a 1959 Lincoln Continental Mark IV coupe, a 1966 Imperial Crown convertible and a 1974 Buick Estate Wagon). I do not consider the personal luxury coupes of the late seventies (a fad of the disco era) to merit the consideration as competitors for the title. The 1970-1979 Lincoln Continental does however. In particular, the 1974 coupe is perhaps one of the largest coupes ever made. I suggest that for exterior statistics future writers of automotive superlatives read the Standard Catalog of American Cars series (Krause Publications). It is full of misinformation (especially the 1946-1975 edition) but it is a practical starting point. As for interior dimensions, sales brochures, data books, and the Consumer Report's annual automotive edition are the best sources.
Sadowski 18:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
