Talk:Jagdgeschwader 1 (World War 2)

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1 Citation
2 Apologies Klaiber
3 JG1 "Oesau" emblem
4 Asessment

[edit] Citation

Hi,

Some of the content and structure that was added to this stub on June 12 and 13 was taken directly from my website:

http://www.jg1.org/show.php?pg=real_jg1

Honestly, I’m very flattered that some of my work was added to Wikipedia and take it as a great complement. However, could my website please be cited? This material took some time to compile, and while not "original research", some of the sentence structure used in the wikipedia stub is mine.

Regarding my sources, the II./JG1 information I have is based firmly upon existing sources. Specifically, the Organizational and “Flugzeugbestand und Bewegungsmeldungen” charts found here:

http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg1.htm

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg1.html

And the following excellent secondary sources:

"Defenders of the Reich" by Erich Mombeek, v. 1 - 3

"Jagdgeschwader 1 und 11" by Jochen Prien and Peter Rodeike, v. 1 – 3

Thanks, Klaiber.

Excellent work there, Klaiber. Altough I didnt add the information myself, I'd be more than happy to cite to its proper source. I will do it while I wikify the article sometime tonight. And thanks for the secondery sources - I might have to take a look at those.Abel29a 22:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Abel29a! Much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.Klaiber 22:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Well - any help with an article on Walter Oseau would be great, as I know next to nothing about him :) Would be a shame to not have an article on him now that the JG 1 article is here. Abel29a 23:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies Klaiber

When updating the JG1 entry I meant to add a link to your site but in the process of working on all the other Luftwaffe wings entries completely forgot! Apologies again Harryurz 12:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

No worries Harryurz. I've been meaning to create and work on a Jagdgeswader 1 "Oesau" stub, but never got around to it. Both the work that you and Abel29a are putting into this is really great. I'm just glad to help. Klaiber 15:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JG1 "Oesau" emblem

Another issue that I wanted to bring up is the JG1 "Oesau" emblem, which was introduced by Geschwaderkommadore Obstlt. Walter Oesau in September of 1943. From all of the sources and photographs I've seen, the "Flying 1" was actually a red winged '1' in a white diamond, enclosed in a black circle (not a red one). I've seen the red version quite a bit online, and I've even seen it in a few aircraft color plates and books. But I'm not sure if it's 100% historical. To add to the confusion, Eric Mombeek, in "Defenders of the Reich" actually describes it as being a red circle, in volume 2. But then goes on to show it as a black circle in every plate and photograph. Just wanted to bring it up for discussion. Klaiber 21:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I took what I found online at face value, must admit I'm not an expert at all on this unit. If somebody could find a definite source that would be nice, but if there is even cofusion in the written material it might be a bit difficult top make heads and tails off... Abel29a 00:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)