Talk:İznik
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As the one who put an end to actual chauvinism (if it wasn't simply an error) in this article by moving it from Nicaea to Iznik (see edit history), I add my support to having the former Greek name (from which the Turkish name is derived) in the lead sentence. This is not chauvinism, but it is for the reader's advantage, as many readers will be cross-referencing, etc. Giving relevant alternate names in the lead is also the standard in Wikipedia. Alexander 007 18:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
On that note, was it necessary to move it to the spelling with the dotted capital I? Even when we call it "Iznik" we just use a regular I in English... Adam Bishop 02:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree - since there seems to be no agreement on the previous move, we should restore it to the previous name.--Aldux 12:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
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- There was no discussion of it, and furthermore the person who made the move didn't even attempt to fix the category indexing. I'm moving it back. Gene Nygaard 01:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Actually, Niceae is the correct spelling. But in any case, "correctness" isn't the criterion for Wikipedia:Naming conventions. Best known in English is. On top of that, and your notion of "correctness" hasn't been established in any case.
- And no, you completely broke the indexing of the categories.
- Nor did you change the double redirects, as you were reminded to do when you made the move.
- So I'm moving it back again. Gene Nygaard 04:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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- You are correct that "Nicaea" is the most common name in English for the ancient city, but the modern city is always called İznik. I have no objections if you split the articles, however (like İzmir and Smyrna). As for the indexing, perahps you could help me out—I tried my best. I've fixed the double redirects as you requested. —Khoikhoi 04:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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- You've been around long enough that it really stretches credibility that you can't see what the problem is with the indexing. But I guess you do need help, so start by reading about the sort keys at Wikipedia:Categorization.
- This article was originally about the ancient city. If there is any splitting out to do, make your own new article. Gene Nygaard 04:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Section/article on Iznik tileware needed
Turkish/Ottoman-era Iznik is most famous for its tileware, particularly a certain shade of blue used in them. I expected to find some mention of that here; guess I'll have to resource the books I've got and concoct something. Should it be a separate article, as it's not a political/urban history?Skookum1 17:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
