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Not sure, but I think there is a typo in the Applications section ... but I don't know enough about this topic to feel safe doing a minor edit. The line "Therefore, professional phones are actually 1.4"" oriented and always include an adapter to 3.5 mm" ... should that read 1/4"? Or does this indicate something different?


"A good example of this 3D positioning in action is the game Battlefield 2 for PC. Many players find headphones extremely useful as far as listening for enemies firing around their avatar, or someone sneaking behind it for a quick knife-kill."

Does anyone else think the above has no place in this article? It's about headphones, and I think someone let their love of Battlefield 2 get ahead of them. Seriously, this belongs in the Battlefield 2 article, because I could not care less about avatars or quick knife-kills.


AFAIK this is never a singular... - Tarquin 11:13 Mar 5, 2003 (UTC)

Actually, yes it can be. DJs often use a single headphone, because the other is often hanging off the other side anyhow. This is how beatmatching is accomplished, by listening to the cue in only one ear and the current program in the other. (Often, they also have a microphone hanging off as well.) –radiojon 15:26, 2004 Apr 16 (UTC)

Yeah. Look at google--almost 3 million hits for the singular (admittedly there are 6 million for the plural). Also 'what links here'--many are looking for the singular. While plural may be 'most common use', I think singular is common enuf to move this back, based on the WP standard to prefer singular titled articles. Niteowlneils 01:00, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Any motion to talk about backphones? --Joshk 08:38, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Circumaura and supra-aural

Is is me, or are supra-aural and circum-aural swapped?

No its not, Supra-aural -> (above the ear)
Circum-aural -> (around the ear) which is what is written on the article
It's been changed. I made that comment before it was changed. Reub2000 10:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

why is the impedance of headphones significantly larger than speakers? - Omegatron 21:54, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

headphones have a higher impedance mainly in order to limit current draw from a source.. this is because headphones move less air around (therefore require less current) and if same amount of current was used, it'd probably break the coils..

[edit] http://www.head-fi.org/

Seeing as more than 50% of the website is advertisements, does this qualify as a valid resource or a marketing ploy? Thepcnerd 06:28, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes it is a valid resource. Head-fi is mainly a forum, and I don't think any of the posters are swayed one way or another, since they aren't seeing any of the advertising money. Besides, this is one of the most major forums on the web for discussing headphones. I say the link should stay. Reub2000 10:43, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
I counted twenty seperate advertisements on the website. It seems like the main reason for the link is a marketing ploy. Since you say the forums are the real validity of the website, how about the link point to the forums rather than to the ad-fest homepage of nearly no value to users? Thepcnerd 08:20, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Reub200, Head-fi is a very helpful website for those who love headphones and the link should definitely stay. I'm glad somebody took the time to change the link to the forums page, too.

[edit] FPS thing

Hello, I don't have any objection to FPSs, but the FPS section really stuck out like a sore thumb, so I tried putting it into the context of the 'the purpose of headphones is...' paragraph at the start. Acceptable?

Uh, why do you reject the term FPS? That's a feature of FPS games, but not all of video games. --Ypacaraí 23:47, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

I find that headphones give me a much better mental map of the world in any game with decent 3D sound, whether it's an FPS, 3rd person (eg resi 4), a driving game or whatever.

[edit] List of canalphones

I deleted the comprehensive list of canalphones, as it consumes a great deal of space in this article. However, if someone thinks it might be useful to create a List of canalphones article, then they can use the old version [1] to do so. --LostLeviathan 02:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

The "Prominent manufacturers of headphones" section has also gotten way out of hand and should be altogether disposed of. This is an encyclopedia, not a business directory. Femto 13:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dynamic/Electrostatic

I updated some things on the dynamic and electrostatic drivers, adding some physics into the mix. Furthermore there are "electret" headphones, if anyone knows them well, update the electrostatic section with it. Also most headphones now use neodymium drivers, not ferrite (and thus Nd magnets are not only on expensive headphones). Take the stock iPod earbuds, for example.

[edit] Backing type

I updated the backing type section, added more details and fixed some not so professional wording. Also I took out the part where open headphones sound better than closed; this is very opinion based and thus controversial.

Are you sure this is opinion-based? I have heard from many sources that open construction tends to offer more accurate sound reproduction than closed phones in the same price range. Also, in my experience open phones are lighter and more comfortable (in the same price range). Can someone elaborate on why is this considered opinion-based? Perhaps we could at least say that "many people believe that open backed headphones generally offer better sound quality and comfort than closed headphones of a similar price", or something similar? (Also, even if someone can prove that this is nothing but a myth, I still think it's a myth worth mentioning...) --Aidan 03:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bluetooth headsets

As 'headset' #redirects to here, and as bluetooth headsets have both a microphone and an output unit, i wonder if there could be a section devoted to them. Especially because bluetooth headsets in combination with mobile phones are often used in a car kit, i suppose we could mention at least some of these aspects in the article. My main point is: they also have a mike, but that is never mentioned bsod 18:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wireless headphones?

Does anyone have any photos of this? I doubt that they exist..

Sorry, you doubt wireless headphones exist? Or you just doubt that photos of them exist? This image might do:
Image removed

--Aidan 04:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electrocution

If I plugged my earphones into the CD player in my computer. What are the chances I would get an electric shock? And how big an electric shock would it be? I know it sounds like a stupid question, but staff in my office are not allowed to do this purely because of this one sole reason!

That is ridiculous! It's impossible to get an electric shock from the voltage that headphones normally operate at. Even if you had a malfunctioning PSU with the fuses somehow left intact, it would burn down the equipment instantly and you'd be much more likely to die in a resulting fire than receive a shock from the headphones. -- intgr 09:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
The typical output power from headphone jacks is between 5 to 20 mW. That's mW, 1/1000th of a watt. Sometimes you can find outputs of up to ~100mW at the headphone jack in hi-fi receivers or dedicated headphone amplifiers, but I doubt they provide that kind of audiophilic electronics in the office (but, but, that's my red stapler). Bantering aside, reasonable headphone volume is usually achieved with less than 10mW of power, the occasional skater might use 15mW. At any rate, you can probably feel a small shock if you go out of your way and try, but you can't hurt yourself with 15mW. They really should hire engineers to make that kind of decisions in the office. =) Dept of Alchemy 23:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Prominent manufacturers of headphones"

I removed this section, which I feel is not appropriate for this page. The links to manufacturer articles should be handled through a separate list of headphone manufacturers, or create a Category:Headphone manufacturers as subcat of Category:Audio equipment manufacturers. Femto 15:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grooving guy

How does the image of "a guy grooving to music" add anything to the article? 62.251.111.252 20:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MV Headphones link

I removed the external link to [2] because I find much of what it claims to be misleading (e.g. noise canceling 'phones do not cancel baby cries or sounds from external conversations - at least not actively and not by much), and some of the information in the article is flat-out wrong (low impedance cannel 'phones tend to have better bass response than fullsize closed-back headphones when driven by low power consumer electronics, but the article claims otherwise). The article is clearly written by someone with a poor understanding of headphones and should not be listed as an authoritative reference in an encyclopedia as authoritative as the wiki. =) Dept of Alchemy 22:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] whats this?

http://headphones-guide.com/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.25.13.95 (talk • contribs) .

It's a mirror page (Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks) of this article. Wikipedia allows anybody to republish the content provided its license is properly credited. Femto 17:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hearing loss

The article only addresses hearing impairment from loud music but doesn't talk about listening to music at a normal level for extended periods of time (hours a day for several days a week). Is there any hearing loss as a result of that? 70.104.16.31 17:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Range of hearing

The human range of hearing is between 20 Hz and 22 kHz, so any headphones offering beyond these frequencies is not doing anything for anyone. This doesn't even take into the fact what is damaging to our ears after prolonged periods of time. This information should be included in the article. 70.111.218.254 14:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of Headphones

To my knowledge, no one has mentioned this yet. The headphones article is in need of a picture at the top. Personally, I think it's too much trouble what with the copyright issues (for most pictures - granted, a picture of headphones should be free, but still, you know...)
-dogman15 16:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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