User talk:Haakon

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Contents 1 my-boi 2 Grammatical changes! 3 Stop removing my links! 4 sha1 decoder 5 Freenet controversy 6 RainbowCrack 7 Why did you remove my comment regarding linux as kernel not operating system? 8 Music licensing 9 abilitynet 10 spamfighting 11 Applied Media Technologies Corporation 12 Tamago 13 Zach Mills 14 Image:ZackMills.jpg

[edit] my-boi

please reconsider your vote against my-boi i think it is very important since it made national attention in the media, read the article on james barnett the 18-yo who was expelled from his conservative high school for creating the website. the website will soon be joined with xy.com an even more noteworthy website with millions of registered users somthing that makes it very notable, i think this is premature. why did you vote for delete? Qrc2006 21:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

As I said on the AfD page, my reason is WP:BIO. I don't think an expulsion makes someone notable. Unfortunately, lots of gays still get expelled from various organisations for inane reasons. Haakon 10:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

of course an expulsion doesnt make someone notable but if its for biggoted reason such as homophobia and makes national headlines i think it does, just like a murder doesnt make somthing notable as hundreds of thousands of people are murdered a year, but say Mathew Shepard or Andy "Gwen" Araujo who were murdered for being gay/trans and it makes headlines that makes them notable. perhaps an article that compiles differant cases of students being expelled for being gay or one people expelled for being gay in the u.s. or somthing Qrc2006 23:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Please see the comments of others on the nomination page; I second them. Fragmenting the debate across user pages of those you disagree with is counterproductive and bad form, in my opinion. Haakon 17:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatical changes!

Sorry about the grammatical changes script thing i made, i only have a basic knowledge of javascript and I think it showed. Nice to see you noticed my spelling contributions though! --JiMoThY^TALK 17:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop removing my links!

Why do you remove my links from the obfuscation code? It's related to the article (my link points to the x86 assembler obfuscator), what's wrong with it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pelock (talk • contribs) .

Please read WP:EL for the purpose of external links in Wikipedia. It is not a link directory like DMOZ. --Haakon 15:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sha1 decoder

I added the link to sha1 decoder at the SHA-1 article yet again... Only this time I also took the time to populate the database and the tool now searches more than 1,500,000 distinct text-sha1 hash pairs, which I believe turns it into a quite useful tool...

[edit] Freenet controversy

Isn't it normal to inform in an encyclopaedia that freenet is more 'underground' and 'unrespectable' that it seems to be, unlike most p2p networks like ed2k and fastrack, and that it's a bit unfit to describe it as the third generation p2p networks?SamiKaero 11:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RainbowCrack

Maybe one link (http://rainbowcrack.com) should be returned to the article about RainbowCrack program? It's the world biggest project using RainbowCrack software, and is the best demonstration of RainbowCrack potential. --Alexey Petrov 00:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, perhaps a link to rainbowcrack.com could be appropriate, if it really is a notable project in the field. We should be careful to avoid turning the section into a spamfest where spammers argue "site X is there, so I want my site Y there". --Haakon 18:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you remove my comment regarding linux as kernel not operating system?

I added a comment to the discussion page of linux. you removed my comment without reason, why is this? the comment was titled Linux is a kernel not an operating system. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.147.132.80 (talk • contribs) .

I did not remove it; I moved it to the bottom. It is customary on talk pages to add new comments to the bottom, not the top. The comment is still there. Similarly, I'm moving this comment to the bottom of this talk page :-) --Haakon 18:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music licensing

Am curious about your remark regarding this article being "unencyclopedic." Since I started the article and wrote about 95% of what has remained there, I'm a little concerned; I really see nothing that would make it "more encyclopedic," and I notice that nobody has made any effort to make the article "more encyclopedic" in spite of these criticisms. Generally, criticism is most helpful when it is accompanied by suggestions for improvement.-- lowgenius -- My Talk Page 02:42, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not explaining; I will in Talk:Music licensing. --Haakon 08:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] abilitynet

You keep removing the information that I paste up about ITCH and I can't understand why. This is a voluntary organisation which provides FREE computer help for disabled people in the UK. I am trying to help them to make more disabled people more aware of this free facility. I thought Wikipedia was a worldwide information source. I'm confused now as to what constitutes a valid entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abilitynet (talk • contribs) .

I have explained in my edit summaries. I'm sure ITCH is a great initiative, but Wikipedia is not a place for promoting services. There are notability guidelines for inclusion, which should be followed even if your cause for promoting is noble. --Haakon 08:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply Haakon. I've checked the notibility guidelines but I'm still a bit confused. I've seen other organisations promoting their services, some of them commercial, so I'm at a loss to understand why ITCH can't. I'm new to wikipedia, so please treat me gently :¬) Abilitynet 09:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Any promotion of a non-notable service is unwanted. Just because someone has managed to slip some in, in spite of Wikipedia guidelines, does not mean everyone should be able to. We will deal with the others when we see them :-) --Haakon 12:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spamfighting

heys, thanks for getting rid of the imbisibol spam. i noticed it on del.icio.us and went to delete their other crap, but you were there already! grrr, stealing my fun! ;) Dreamyshade 21:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Applied Media Technologies Corporation

AMTC is a legitimate competitor to all of the business music vendors out there. Every one of the articles contains a list of competitors; you have been deleting AMTC's official site from this list without cause. External links are less preferable to Wikipedia links but they ARE valid to use on WP. Please stop removing legitimate content. Your edits creates bias in articles by omitting a major player in the industry while allowing other competitors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaedenStormes (talk • contribs) .

External links do not belong in "See also" sections, which are for internal links to other articles which the reader may also be interested in reading. Neither does you link belong under External links; Wikipedia is not a link directory. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. --Haakon 18:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a link directory, but neither is it acceptable that valid facts are omitted from an article because there isn't a full article on the topic. There are external links on almost every page in Wikipedia; it will take you quite some time to delete them all.

I don't know who nominated you my personal cop, but you're really beginning to annoy. You're making changes which change the facts of the articles I'm posting, having no understanding whatsoever what you're doing, because you think it's spam to add a fact. You think it's spamming to add a company whose name starts with A to the top of an alphabetical list. Seriously, chill out.

The list was not in alphabetical order [1], but you assumed an internal structure that was not obvious. I made it clearer now. I'm sorry if I've annoyed you; you don't seem terribly bad although you come here representing a company :-) --Haakon 19:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

And once again... If you're going to annoint yourself the cop of the music sections of Wikipedia, why not read more carefully? Muzak isn't a music genre either, but it's listed in that category... Seriously, are you just watchlisting everything I do so you can screw with it?

"The word "Muzak" has, in popular usage, broken free from its corporate parent and become a catchall (often pejorative) for easy listening, MOR, or elevator music—indeed, become an epithet for banal, derivative, or repetitive music." Muzak is very often used to describe a musical genre, so I think this categorisation is fair. However, nobody means a musical genre when they say "Applied Media Technologies Corporation"; that would be absurd. --Haakon 19:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

This article was cleared last night by several other wikipedians. Can you please explain who better than the company itself is an authority to describe a product, and who else I should be citing? Everything I claim in the article is a verifiable fact and can be seen so by looking at the pages I've referenced.

Isuzu lists a ton of facts with no references, let alone verifiable ones on the company's site, and doesn't have a big glaring bullshit billboard. Ditto for Trusonic, Nationwide Insurance, and probably half the rest of Wikipedia. Likewise, you're also discounting the SIRIUS website, which is clearly the authority on who their partners are and are not.

AMTC is not a multibillion-dollar company. Their products haven't been reviewed by Gizmodo and they aren't written about in the Wall Street Journal. That shouldn't deny them the ability to be listed in Wikipedia, and it shouldn't force them to have to have this badge of distrust on their article, because you can't read about what they do on 5000 other websites.

I don't understand what your vendetta against this article is, but I'm really getting tired of wasting my time trying to convince you to focus on the other 2.2 million WP pages and stop chasing me around with a can of whitewash trying to eliminate everything I post about a legitimate corporation.

You're willing to take a blog as a reference, but not two respected, international corporations. I think your thoughts on the matter are a bit skewed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaedenStormes (talk • contribs) .

The corporations themselves are primary sources, and citing them constitues original research. Wikipedia references should be secondary sources. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more on this. No, blogs are usually not reliable sources. Just because nobody has dealt with such a citing yet, does not mean it's acceptable. --Haakon 14:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Even if we agree that AMTC is not a valid source, SIRIUS is a second party in this. What I want to know, and nobody seems to be willing to say, is simply, who could I possibly list as a source? Who do you want to tell you this information is true, besides going right to the horse's mouth with it? If nobody has reviewed the service or substantially covered it in the news (there are press releases all over, but you'd likely delete those too because they blaspheme the internet by mentioning the name of the corporation - they must be totally unreliable despite being picked up by such publications as the New York Times) then what, should the article be decried as useless or unreliable for all time because no primary source that doesn't meet your narrow-minded judgement exists? Why is it that of all the Wikipedians out there, you get to make this determination and nobody else gets to change it? The article was fine by Bill.matthews and e1ven who changed it last night, but still you come in as the self-proclaimed paladin of Wikipedia policy, despite everyone else thinking it's OK, and now I guess you get the right to call AMTC's facts a pile of bullshit for all eternity because you're the great and powerful Haakon. What now, is the company to spend a ton of money getting listed in every publication on earth in order to satisfy your narrow opinion? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaedenStormes (talk • contribs) .

Press coverage by reputable publications would be good references for this article. But fine, if you, who after all have several days of Wikipedia experience, think AMTC should be exempt from Wikipedia's official verifiability policy, I won't lay down substantial resources in arguing against you. --Haakon 15:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

You may wish to take a look at Reel Sound Productions - I dont know what the proper WP thing to do about it is, but its content is almost entirely cut and paste from the Music on hold article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaedenStormes (talk • contribs) .

Am I now disallowed from even removing content I create? I take it you're now the sole proprietor of Wikipedia, and all content on it is yours. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaedenStormes (talk • contribs) .

Past discussion is only removed in very special cases. Most people archive it instead, and that does not make them sole proprietors of Wikipedia. --Haakon 16:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tamago

I'm new to Wikipedia editing so perhaps I don't know the ropes. I believe you are the one that kicked Tamago off the P2P list. Please go to www.tamago.us and see what tamago is about. I wrote a piece on tamago and that also has dissappeared. Yes, the Tamago P2P network is from a company called oddly enough Tamago (a California Corporation) so I guess that's advertising but then so are 90% of the rest of the P2Ps on the list. So what's so different about Tamago. It is the first (and I believe only) P2P system that is a true e-commerce system. Please check it out.

If you are not the one that deleted Tamago, my apologies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Feierbach (talk • contribs) .

I did remove your listing of Tamago in Peer-to-peer, as you can tell by clicking the history tab. The list of peer-to-peer software in that article is already very long, and it should not be made even longer by non-notable entries. Please do not take that as an insult; it does not mean that Tamago is not great and useful software. Likewise, Quarl deleted your article on Tamago by the same non-notability reason, as you can see by the deletion log. I thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, but please also be aware that Wikipedia should not be used for mere awareness raising. --Haakon 11:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zach Mills

I am Zach Mills' mother. I am new to these boards but it looked like you may have been the person who started my son's (Zach Mills') profile. ? If that is the case, I don't know how you got all of the personal information but I deleted it, and I am respectfully requesting that you do NOT post it again. I understand that we are in show business, not the witness protection program but if you think about it, most people don't want to broadcast their personal information. A person could easily learn our address based on the information that I deleted. I am not comfortable with that. I hope you understand. My apologies if I am mistaken. I know someone could have edited your post.

I did start the article on Zach Mills, after which it looked like this. Some fans have apparently added information which is not only personal, but completely irrelevant in an encyclopedia article on Zach. I support your removing of it, and I will watch the article more closely in the future. Thank you for your understanding. --Haakon 20:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

If notice is taken of the stage name entry (and examples like Nicolas Cage illustrate this), it will be seen that notable persons such as actors do indeed sacrifice a certain level of anonymity as a result of their public visibility; inclusion of individuals' real names are not an inappropriate level of content. Furthermore, the interest in such public figures logically extends outward to family--something to keep in mind. As the subject's agent, no doubt Ms. Weishampel is well aware of the many avenues available to her to afford protection from the public attention the rising success her son's career will bring. As seen in examples like Britney Spears and others, fans of a public figure, particularly in the entertainment industry, seek out information, and the logical pathway ahead for an actor of Zach's quality has far more personal revelations in store as the press takes a greater interests, and fans piece together a more complete biography. As for the facts regarding his older brothers, his mother/agent herself posted this information on the IMDb Biography site, where only a bit of digging (http://www.countingdown.com/movies/3555753/news?item_id=3734948 and others) was necessary to substantiate key elements. --76.188.86.41--

[edit] Image:ZackMills.jpg

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