Talk:Green Monster
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One or two articles ? Ericd 21:47 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC) hi im bryce I'm not a die hard baseball fan, so I don't know enough about the Boston Green Monster to expand it into its own article. I suggest leaving it as one article for the time being. -- Modemac 21:53 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)
Aren't the Red Sox planning on putting seats on top of the Green Monster? -- Zoe
can someone go to fenway and take a nice picture of the green monster so we can have it on this article? Kingturtle 23:44 Apr 21, 2003 (UTC)
A google search for "green monster" retrieves hundreds of references to the wall at Fenway Park and very few references to the dragsters. I think the baseball wall should be listed first. Kingturtle 01:12, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
- To be honest, I reverted more out of annoyance that you'd put the ballpark wall first but not bothered fixing the wording.
- It's a conflict between one thing that's moderately known worldwide (the land speed record holding Green Monster more than the dragsters) and another that's intensely well-known in one particular geographical area (Boston) and moderately well-known across America among baseball fans. Two rather different types of well-known.
- IMO, the best solution would be to expand both until they're big enough to fill an article on their own, and turn this page into a disambiguation. Until that point, I don't really care which goes first, but the one that goes first shouldn't have '... is also ...' at the start ... --Morven 05:46, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] Fisk's HR
Fisk's HR hit the foul pole. It did not go over the Green Monster. Is it really part of the Green Monster story? Or is its place in the Fenway Park story? Kingturtle 17:55, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The Fisk homer did indeed go over the Green Monster. It is the most famous, storied and celebrated home run to ever go over that wall. Much more so than the Dent homer. I think if this article is to mention one, it should mention both. No Guru 18:00, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
==though the seating area was considered home run territory and "out" of the playing field.
That sentence seems pointless. Is ther anywhere where seating is in the playing field?
- No. Even when fans were seated on the field, the seating area was designated dead ball territory, and thus "out" of the playing field. --65.91.102.204 21:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Uphill in both directions?
- From 1912 to 1933, there was a 10-foot-high mound that formed an incline in front of the Green Monster, extending from the left-field foul pole to the centerfield flag pole. As a result of the mound, a left fielder in Fenway Park had to play the entire territory running uphill.
What? How can you have to play the entire territory running uphill? Surely you have to go downhill sometimes? Is there an explanation for this anomaly that is not obvious to this reader? -dmmaus 02:13, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Joe Brovia
Was he really called the Green Monster. In his article it states that he was famous for hitting homers over the "Green Monster" of the Pacific Coast League ? No Guru 22:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] original height
Wall was originally 25 feet high, changed to 37' 2" during reconstruction after Yawkey bought team.
[edit] Term "Green Monster"
The article says "'Green Monster' is a term mainly used by people not associated with the team. Most Red Sox fans usually refer to it as simply 'The Wall.'"
I would agree that if someone hit a ball off it, a Red Sox fan would say "He hit it off the Wall", but if I were to refer to it I would most definately call it "The Green Monster" or "The Monster". This line from the article (IMHO) makes is sound like nobody but tourists would ever call it "The Green Monster" which I feel is not accurate. Any thoughts or am I just reading too much into it? DrunkenSmurf 17:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. In talking about a play, "Manny barehanded the ball after it bounced off the wall," or "Ortiz slammed one over the wall in the 5th," calling it "the wall" is usual. But the seats up top are often referred to as the "Monster seats" by many fans. The current wording in the article does make it seem like only tourists call it "The Green Monster," which definitely isn't accurate. Tin 2006-06-18
[edit] Memorable Home Runs
Someone added in Gary Carter's home runs in Game 4 of the 1986 World Series as memorable, but they were quickly removed by someone else who claimed Carter's home runs "aren't 'memorable' in nearly the same sense".
You have to remember that nothing will top Fisk and Dent in terms of memorable. Those are two of the most memorable home runs in the history of baseball, let alone over the Green Monster. But I certainly don't think Carter's home runs' not being able to stand in that class should exclude them from inclusion on this page.
Game 4 was a huge game in that World Series, as the Mets tied it up 2-2 rather than falling down 3-1. I still remember the headlines the next day, "Carter Slays Monster". It was a big deal that not only did Carter hit two home runs, but that he hit them over the storied monster. It felt like it sent a message to Boston.
So my vote is they were memorable. But more importantly, my statement is that despite the fact nothing else compares to Fisk and Dent, there were some more memorable home runs over that fence.Ags412 07:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
