Talk:Fireman's chair knot
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The "Handcuff knot" and the "Fireman's chair knot" are different knots.
The "Handcuff knot" is tied off with an "Overhand knot" or "Reef knot" at the second stage on your diagram.
The "Fireman's chair knot" is built upon the "Handcuff knot".
In my opinion, they really shouldn't be on the same page.
-- 144.138.21.175 20:09, 7 August 2005
- OK, have a look now -- I've done a diagram of what I think you mean, and moved part of the page to Handcuff knot. Ojw 19:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Man-o'war sheepshank
This knot looks awfully similar to the Man-o'war sheepshank. Are they in fact the same? -Shai-kun 17:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- The structure the knots in both diagrams is identical. Since use is different, different names may be argued for. This is the position Clifford Ashley takes in The Ashley Book of Knots.
- "A different way either of tying or applying a form generally constitutes a second knot." (ABoK re. knots #1 and #2)
- Whether this approach is reasonable is probably a matter of taste.
- Note: As for the names used in this specific case, "Fireman's Chair" I was unable to find in the ABoK and "Man-o'-War Sheepshank" (ABoK #1164) is given (as one of three names) for a knot that is somewhat different from the version on wikipedia. (The difference being the direction the half hitches are tied.)
- --Netizen 22:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
