Template talk:Editprotected

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Contents 1 Documentation 1.1 Usage 1.2 Example 1.3 Updates 1.4 See Also 2 Discussion 2.1 Examples? 2.2 Rationale 2.3 Redesign 2.4 ? 2.5 instructions missing 2.6 Editprotected update request 3 Protected? 4 Edit summary 5 Adding ar

[edit] Documentation

{{editprotected}} is used to mark a protected page for a proposed update.

[edit] Usage

{{editprotected}}

Add this on the talk page of a protected page with the precise wikitext you want to be edited.

[edit] Example

What you could type at the bottom of the relevant talk page:

==Wrong category==
The protected page (why was it fully protected if only
an anon vandalized it once, we have semi-protection)
should be in category '''foo''' with sort key '''bar''':

Please replace <tt><nowiki>[[Category:old]]</nowiki></tt>
by <tt><nowiki>[[Category:foo|bar]]</nowiki></tt>

~~~~ {{editprotected}}

The output would be roughly something like this:

---

Wrong category

The protected page (why was it fully protected if only an anon vandalized it once, we have semi-protection) should be in category foo with sort key bar:

Please replace [[Category:old]] by [[Category:foo|bar]]

User:Example 2006-11-18 16:56 UTC

It is requested that an edit or modification be made to the protected page. Please remove this notice and close the discussion once the request is completed.

---

The template adds the talk page in question to Category:Wikipedia_protected_edit_requests. An admin will see this later, check the talk page, remove the template again, and either edit the protected page as proposed or not - stating what (s)he has done at the place where (s)he removed the template.

[edit] Updates

{{Editprotected}} is protected at the moment. Use {{Editprotected}} on this page to propose an edit.

Text output by {{Temprot}} which can be used on talk pages of protected templates.

[edit] See Also

• Template:Editprotected (edit talk links history)
• Template:Temprot (edit talk links history)
• Category:Wikipedia protected edit requests

[edit] Discussion

Add issues below as you see fit, sign with ~~~~

[edit] Examples?

Could someone show some examples of how this can be used? Is it currently being used anywhere? Aucaman^Talk 17:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

It is particularly useful for the proposed Wikipedia:Stable versions. Its purpose also overlaps and is somewhat easier than Requests for Unprotection. -- 13:00, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rationale

Why? Because protecting pages that only administrators can edit is inherently anti-wiki and POV. This template tries to minimise that. -- Zondor 06:36, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redesign

I would like to suggest this template be modified. A lot of the text it contains should be removed from the template itself:

-- Ec5618 19:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ?

Why was this deleted? Userboxes seemed to be quite popular. I thought they were a great way to say things about yourself without having to write an autobiography. Starla Dear 01:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about? -- Omniplex 13:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] instructions missing

This template's explanation is incomprehensible to most users, and it's missing the instructions. Instead of "This notice is to be placed on the talk page and adjacent to the request text.", this should say:

To ask an administrator to edit a protected page, you can add this notice on the talk page adjacent to the request by writing "{{Editprotected}}" without the quotes.

--Espoo 17:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Espoo is right, I couldn't figure it out and had a perfectly valid need for this. Please as some instructions giving the text to be entered. Thanks! Avraham 01:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

See above -- Omniplex 13:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editprotected update request

For some time {{editprotected}} listed itself in the category for requested updates, because it was used here (on its talk page) as example. That's fixed now for some weeks, therefore I hope that a real request here could now work again:

Please replace
[[Category:Uncategorized templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
by
[[Category:Protection templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]

-- Omniplex 05:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. --CBDunkerson 15:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, also to Syrthiss who migrated the rest of this zoo. -- Omniplex 17:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected?

Why does this template have to be protected? It doesn't have a history of vandalism or edit warring, it's not extensively transcluded at any one time (5 articles at time of writing). I'm assuming the admin who protected it just had protection on the brain when they were reading the template, but I think it's unnecessary and by principle we should start from a no-protection starting point. BigBlueFish 15:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

I have modified this template so that users can add the summary of the requested edit. Myrtone

I've reverted it. This makes the conversation hard to follow when the template is removed. Naconkantari 01:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I was trying to make it consistant with {{unblock}} which does allow the user to type in the reason, when the request is comfirmed or denied, the admin simpliy nowikis it or removes the template and keeps the reason, so why not with {{editprotected}}? Myrtone

Editprotected works fine as is, the nominator just types the request, signs, and adds the tag. The admin removes the tag, writes "done" (or a bit more otherwise), signs, ready. No reason to introduce parameters. -- Omniplex 04:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Why have these perameters with {{unblock}} but not {{editprotected}}? I still don't understand. Myrtone

It is best not to look at precedents in Wikipedia, but look at each problem separately and find the best solution. Is a summary parameter and Reviewed subcategory necessary and effective in {{unblock}}? Who knows, its not important, we won't be basing the behaviour of {Editprotected} on {Unblock}. What is important is what is neccessary for {Editprotected} to work efficiently and effectively. I have not seen any arguments for adding the summary parameter or Reviewed subcategory - are there good reasons? I don't think so, I think {Editprotected} works fine as is. But by all means discuss, maybe there is something I am missing.

Importantly, if someone reverts your change to a popular template, do not revert back until consensus has been reached on the talk page (eg in this case, including me, 3 people have turned up to oppose the addition of the summary parameter). Please revert the template to version before the compulsory summary parameter. If there is a concern that people will try to use a summary parameter but it doesn't exist, perhaps an optional parameter as found in {{Helpme}} could be added. I don't like it, it's not necessary and makes things more complicated, but perhaps there is a need.--Commander Keane 06:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the non-summary version and reverted to it. After seeing three editprotected requests in a row with the silly-looking "The summary is: {{{1}}}", I'm convinced that if people want to explain their rationale for editing the protected page, they prefer to do so outside of the template itself. Kimchi.sg 08:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes blocked users do this with {{unblock}}, I could add an optional paramater but I don't know how to do that, could someone help? Myrtone (☏)

There is no point to this change. —Centrx→talk • 07:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding ar

Can someone please add [[ar:قالب:!]] to the interwiki's. Thanks. Jak123 20:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

This doesn't look like a template. It looks like a Wikipedia page with sections and bullet points. —Centrx→talk • 22:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)