Talk:Danube Swabians
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[edit] Proposal for New Article: Expulsion of the Danube Swabians
I intend to write a main article for "Expulsion of the Danube Swabians", that this one can link to. More information at User:Adammathias/Vertreibung_der_Donauschwaben Issues:
- Article Name
I believe "Expulsion of the Danube Swabians" is the correct English translation for "Vertreibung der Donauschwaben". While some have called the event ethnic cleansing or even genocide, and it certainly fits at least the definition of the former, those terms are both bombastic, likely to arouse controversy, and not used in German. THe other naming issue is about "Danube Swabians". Of course "...Donauschwaben" should redirect, but should the article maybe be called "...Yugoslav Germans" or "Germans of Yugoslavia", since some groups (notably those in Slovenia near Austria) are not Donauschwaben - were they persecuted?
- Scope
Also, Donauschwaben in Romania and Hungary were not subject to the same treatment, though any article would definitely mention their experience. Additionally, it would be natural to include a section on internment in Russia/Ukraine.
- Maps/Photos
I have only print media detailing these events, and very few pictures of camps DURING THEIR USE. I have plenty of pictures of the sites, memorials, etc. as they now are. Any help in this regard would be very much appreciated.
- Perspective
I think it would be optimal if we could get Yugoslav perspectives on German collaboration with the Nazis, and detail the motives and origins of the Partisans, etc. If possible, maps/photos/documents from Yugoslav sources would be great. I do have a copy of the AVNOJ-Beschluss, but getting it in the original Serbian would be better than playing telephone (translating twice, Srb->Ger->Eng).
- Anything else?
I think I will point out that the places in the Vojvodina that now have the most Serbs (and occasionally, Montenegrins) formerly had the most Germans.
- I'm heading out of town for a few days, but I'll try to provide some more help next week. I would suggest asking User:PANONIAN for assistance, as he contributes a large amount of data about the Vojvodina region. Also, I would suggest signing your posts with ~~~~, as that gives your signature and date stamp. Olessi 17:27, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I should sign my posts properly. I have discussed the issue a bit with Panonian, though, and I'm sure he'll pitch in a lot! Adam Mathias 18:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article Name
This should be listed under "Danube Swabians" or "Donauschwaben", not Donau-Schwabian (never heard that term before today).
Take a look at the external links: all three terms seem to be used. If you think one is used more often, of course, go ahead and change it. Saintswithin 06:29, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
took it out. donauschwaben or danube swabian is ok, donau schwabian is some sort of pseudo-german or denglisch. some proof thereof: schwabian does not redirect to swabian (whereas suebi, etc ultimately do). Adam Mathias
[edit] Donauschwaben Userbox
There now exists a Donauschwabe userbox. Simply add user donauschwabe inside 2 sets of curly braces to your user page. Go to Template:User Donauschwabe to edit it or get more information.
- Adammathias
[edit] Donauschwaben User Category
There now exists a Category:Danube_Swabian Wikipedians. It's about time. I'm not very well connected or much of a wikexpert, so I'd greatly appreciate any help with category tags, language coordination, etc. I'd also definitely encourage those simply with a loose affiliation or interest to put themselves down. Later somebody can make a user-1, user-2 style setup so that there can be categories (born down there, descendent of, other ethnicity but interested, other ethnicity but knowledgeable, etc).
- Adammathias
[edit] Donauschwaben Category
I'll try and make a general DS category for all relevant articles.
-Adammathias
