Talk:Common sense conservative

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Much thanks for User:JoeM for the links, and for explaining his perspective. I've been as fair to it as I can.

I'm familiar with the kind of thinking described in the article, but I've never seen someone labelled common sense conservative. A quick check on Google shows me it's rather the other way round, used as as abstract noun: Conservative common sense.

User:JoeM certainly used to use it in exactly the sense as described. I suspect you find more commentary about these people than by' them on the net, and the term seems to sanction itself, as what is "common", "sensible" and "conserves" all tends to be seen as good. Thus its propaganda value. EofT

I wonder how long it'll take until someone who failed to notice ongoing or recent discussions including User:JoeM dumps the The neutrality of this page is disputed on top of this page. Well, generally, I'm afraid I won't be able to help a lot here. But I'm going to (sort of) de-orphanize the page, as so far it's only linked to user talk pages. --KF 21:31, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

A redirect to the "other way around" is advisable in such cases. And this page should be at least as neutral as Islamofascism. Done. EofT

So much of this page was total biased garbage. "Common sense" conservatives are not crazy radical right-wingers at all. They are more often than not moderate conservatives, defined sorely in opposition to liberal governments. "Common sense" conservatism has nothing to do with the war on terror or anything like that, so I removed large chunks of irrelevant, anti-conservative material from this page. user:J.J.

I'd never heard of the term either, but the article was so POV, that it was hard to figure out who he was talking about - Marshman

I've tried to represent the position of "common sense" conservatives a little more fairly, based in large part on the platform of the Ontario Common Sense Revolution. I didn't know what "as they are interpreted solely through neo-conservative views" was supposed to mean in this context, and in any event I think a distinction between neoconservatism and "common sense" conservatism/neoliberalism should be emphasized. Also, the tactic of setting different groups in society against each other is practised by all parts of the political spectrum, so I didn't feel "common sense" conservatives could be legitimately, objectively saddled with it. Still, it's definitely something they have been accused of so I have left it in the article with new language. I am hoping that this is a little bit more NPOV but I'm sure if we keep working on it we'll get there eventually. Greyfedora 16:36, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I should note, actually, that I'm not convinced this page needs to exist since I think "common sense" conservative is actually more a rhetorical device describing certain ideologies rather than an ideology in and of itself, but if it's going to be here, it might as well be neutral. Greyfedora 16:48, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)