Talk:Close central unrounded vowel
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It would be nice if this article mentioned that "ɨ" is the sound of the Korean letter "으" (romanized as "eu" or "ŭ"), and Russian "ы". — Hippietrail 01:50, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The Korean language page uses ɯ for "eu".
- Yeah, the vowel charts at Korean language#Vowels is based on the entry for Korean in The Handbook of the International Phonetic Association and the [ɯ] isn't even close to being an [ɨ] and isn't even analyzed as one. I've corrected it now.
- Peter Isotalo 17:15, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
- Do most Russian speakers also agree that [ɨ] is how 'you (pl.)' actually surfaces? If Russian has a number of allophones, according to other wiki pages, [ɯɨ] among them, it might be worth checking to see if this transcription is correct, and finding a more suitable word if necessary. --Ryan 04:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- [ɯɨ] would occur more after a labial + /l/ cluster. Another good word might be мыться Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 08:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Do most Russian speakers also agree that [ɨ] is how 'you (pl.)' actually surfaces? If Russian has a number of allophones, according to other wiki pages, [ɯɨ] among them, it might be worth checking to see if this transcription is correct, and finding a more suitable word if necessary. --Ryan 04:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I removed a lot of examples of languages from the "Occurs in" section. Including Mandarin was downright wrong, since a lot of modern phoneticians consider "i" in syllables like "si" or "zi" to be syllabic consonants (or even fricatives. As for the rest, I tried to reduce them to some kind of representability. Too many examples, especially from languages that don't even have articles aren't really helpful.
And please limit yourselves to one example per language.
