Talk:Classical guitar
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I added a section on technique yesterday. I'll have to go back at some point and add all the cross-references. Also, I suppose I should tidy up the grammar too. --Benzzene 10:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I made quite a few changes to this page today. I would be happy to discuss them with anyone. Especially the things I deleted. For example, pick guards are not a feature of the classical guitar and so it seemed unecessary to even mention them. Also, classical guitar can be amplified but it seemed not quite right to discuss it in a description of an acoustic instrument. User:Wghezzi 04:05, 9 June 2006
Does the information about Greg Williams focusing on playing Wedding Ceremonies in Northern Calfifornia really belong in an Encyclopedia article about Classical Guitar? I'm asking because I honestly am not sure.Randyoo 04:12, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Personally, I do not think he should be included. Did he school under any great guitar teachers\masters? Does not seem he has any claim to fame.(IchBin 01:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC))
(IchBin 01:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)) Added birth/deaths for Modern performers
(IchBin 22:12, 31 December 2005 (UTC)) Added one more birth date
Why are the three lowest strings wound with metal?
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[edit] Nice link
You can add this link. Nice scores. User:333 14:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Listing of features
Is this the best way to describe the guitar (as a list)?--Light current 15:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Modern performers
The link to Adam Holzman goes to a jazz keyboardist, not the classical guitar performing artist and professor at University of Texas. I don't really know how to fix that. --Amazzing5 01:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Redundancy
There is a lot of duplicate information between this page and List of composers for the classical guitar and some with Classical guitar music. Perhaps there could be --some-- merging (at least of information). This page has much better organization than the list, but not as many composers. I understand the concept of having the "highlights" so to speak, but it still seems like a lot of room for error. Also, very few of the composers show up in Category:Composers for guitar. --Amazzing5 16:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- I merged the part Modern performers with the page Classical guitarists. I think that we should also move or merged the other lists of this page.
The article lacks information on the importance of the subject matter, we should really expand it.
User:Tommaso456 24 June 2006
[edit] Tabs
Would it be frowned upon to add a link to classical guitar tabs? If not, add www.classtab.org to the links. Lovok 18:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm not assessing whether tabs are good or bad, I'm just saying they don't belong in the field of classical guitar. It would be something like giving standard notation to a rock guitarist. F15x28 02:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Allthough tabs usually don't have as much information as sheet music they are still useful for many people. I myself think that it is nice to have the tabs in addition to the normal notes, as it is easier to visualize where you are supposed to place your fingers Hauberg 08:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Glitch-ish
When the Contents panel is hidden, the portal section moves up the screen and half of it can no longer be seen. Lovok 18:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Geographically/culturally biased?
The first paragraph of the article says:
- This instrument is most commonly used by classical guitarists playing classical music, but is also used for folk music.
This is not true in many parts of the world, where the kind of guitar the article concerns itself with (called acoustic guitar or simply guitar in many places) is one of the most common instruments (if not the most common) in popular music of all kinds, from folk to rock. Latin America and the Iberian Peninsula come to mind as the most prominent examples.
Of course, the current name of the article is Classical guitar, which doesn't help. I don't know much about guitars, but it seems to me that there is no difference between the acoustic guitar that is used as a popular instrument in so many places, and the classical guitar of the article. Acoustic guitar is currently a disambiguation page, and of the articles listed on it, it seems like steel-string guitar is the next in affinity with the acoustic guitar in those settings, but those guitars aren't always steel-strung (probably most of the time, at least outside of the US, they are not).
Maybe, if there actually is a subtype of acoustic guitar that is specific to classical music and different from the popular-music type, the article should be split in two; Maybe the name of the article should be changed, maybe even acoustic guitar should host the content that is here now, with a separate disambiguation page?
I am putting in a "globalize" tag. --Cotoco 04:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, there is a difference between the steel-string acoustic and classical guitars. Classical guitar generally refers to the type used to play classical music, whereas folk music is generally played using an acoustic guitar. The two types are very close, but not exactly the same. I'm going to remove the tag. -- Cielomobile talk / contribs 00:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the input, but you may have misunderstood me. As I said, in many places the NON-steel-string acoustic guitar, which as far as I can tell is identical to the "classic guitar" of the article, is the most common type of guitar used in popular music. Steel-string guitars might be the most common type of popular-music guitar in North America, but that's not the case in other places. --Cotoco 04:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gut Strings
Nylon strings are not gut strings. Nylon is a synthetic material that was not created until sometime in the 20th century. Gut strings are made from ox's guts and have a good history of predating Nylon strings. I would like the section where it refers to Nylon strings as gut to be altered to be more historically accurate.
- At Wikipedia, anyone can be an editor. If you identify a section that needs alterations or additions, and have the knowledge to make them, then please do so! Jerry picker 16:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Solid vs. laminated wood
Where the article says:
> The finest guitars are built with a solid Western red cedar or spruce top, solid rosewood back and sides,
Inexpensive instruments are made with laminated rather than solid wood since laminated is cheaper and less susceptible to cracking during assembly and shipping. However, some of the world's finest classical guitars are also made with laminated back and/or sides not for cost or durability issues but because of the maker's theory of design. John Williams, the patriarch of players since Segovia's passing, plays a guitar made by Greg Smallman of Australia, the back and sides of which are made with laminated wood. Ana Vidovic, an incredibly talented player in her twenties, plays a guitar made by Jim Redgate that also uses laminated back and sides. Ramirez of Spain makes models with laminated sides and others with solid sides; his most expensive models use laminated wood. Christopher Parkening plays a Ramirez guitar. Friederich of France uses laminated sides; Angel Romero plays one.
[edit] Frets/fretwires
In the Frets topic:
> Frets are the spaces between the fretwires which are the metal strips (usually nickel alloy or stainless steel) embedded along the fretboard
This is non-standard usage, and I'm surprised to see it. Nearly everyone, if not everyone, uses the word "fret" the way this author is using "fretwire". The fret, in standard usage, is the metal wire across the fretboard. Players refer to fret wire only in specific discussion about e.g. how large they are on a particular instrument, or whether they are worn. Jrethorst 03:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] type of guitar
this article is far too long. it seems to treat the classical guitar as a unique instrument instead of describing the characteristics that set it apart from a normal guitar. this page could be cut down considerably if we remove all the information pertinent to guitars in general (i.e. how it's tuned, what the frets and neck are, etc) and focus on what is unique to classical guitars. 67.172.61.222 23:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Classical guitar is the "normal" kind of guitar. The evolution of modern steel string and electric instruments is in direct descent from the Spanish guitar of Sor and Tarrega.Jerry picker 23:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
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- so why does it have it's own page when it contains the majority of the same content as the guitar article? 67.172.61.222 23:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
