Talk:Chickenhawk (sexuality)
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[edit] Moved from article
I moved the following here for the reasons given below.
- It is a common trait of the classic Chickenhawk to "groom" potential prey over protracted periods of time, even many years, as in the case of offending family members, or among older, sometimes elderly, men who attract groups of neighbourhood youths with enticements of children's idles (candy or baseball cards, for example.) Gradually gaining the trust of even the children's parents/guardians, he might then exploit them within the relative safety of his social esteem.
- It is supposed that sexual predators, including paedophiles, and indeed those of any sexual orientation, can sometimes find mutual affirmation within small groups of the like-minded, leading to a sort of positive-feedback loop of psychosexual "Chickenhawking" pathology. "Rape Gangs" are known to occur in American prisons, wherein otherwise heterosexual men can be conditioned to feign enjoyment in homosexual sex, whether forced or (semi-)consentual. Indeed, this same sort of ingroup peer reinforcement can motivate roving bands of armed paramilitary rape gangs in African civil wars, older boys who ply younger girls with drugs and alcohol, groups of openly gay men who recruit at-risk youth in large cities (especially street involved and drug addicted youth, often using younger, already-initiated individuals as procurers) and even to lofty pseudophilosophical justification in the case of NAMBLA and the Pederasts of ancient Greece.
These paragraphs seem to be about pedophila generally and not chickenhawks specifically. Plus, they are unsourced. Provide sources, and make the material conform to the article topic or they stay here. -Seth Mahoney 22:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Material on political use
In the past five years, I have heard the term "chickenhawk" use most often in a non-sexual context, as a slur by liberals against conservatives who support an aggressive foreign policy while avoiding military service themselves. I think this use ought to be added to the page.
- If you can find sources, by all means add it. -Smahoney 03:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I have been slacking on this. However, I've also never, ever, ever heard the word used for anyone but an older gay man chasing younger gay men or boys. But our main definition now says "Any person of higher status seeking someone of lower status" as if a young Brahmin man in India who pursued elderly Untouchables could reasonably be classed as a "chickenhawk." Should this be altered? DanB†DanD 20:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
