Talk:BLISS

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I've made some changes to this page and added some additional links. I really don't know what I'm doing so please feel free to fix anything I might have screwed up. Thanks. --Jeff

BLISS was perfectly fine and perfectly unambiguous at "BLISS", and linked to in that form from a bunch of places - unless someone gives me a compelling reason, I'm going to move it back. Stan 20:46, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

• Stan, the idea would be to eventually be able to automatically produce dynamic lists of prog langs (in fact, if you take a look at the 'Category:Programming languages' page you will see that, for example, the article with the list of prog langs in alphabetical order becomes redundant, and with it go away the problems of keeping it synchronized (which are not trivial). Please detail how the change affects you and I will try to fix it. Thanks in advance for your response. danakil

Um, if all the languages are in the category, then it doesn't matter what the articles are named, just build the list. There is a whole subculture that thinks about this sort of thing (see Wikipedia:Categorization). My personal trend has been to augment lists with piping and annotations that make them useful for readers in a way that categories can't be (for instance, abstracting away the "programming language" appendage that a category listing can't know to filter out), with the future expectation of using a category to check list content. But that's me; there are other WP people who've spent a lot more time thinking about this. Stan 22:13, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Who uses BLISS

Apart from on vms systems, where would i find a bliss compiler or even applications?

Umm, nobody in their right minds? ;-)

Seriously, DEC used it extensively for both VMS systems components (e.g., the filesystem) and for the CUSPs (the utility programs). The VAX 8800 (Nautilus) and 88x0 (Polarstar) consoles were both mostly programmed in BLISS. It was available for PDP-10s and I believe was used by DEC there as well (although I have no direct knowledge of that area.) It was available for PDP-11s as well (as a VMS-based cross-compiler) but aside from the Nautilus Console, I don't know if it was used on PDP-11s.

Outside of DEC, it was used by some DEC customers. The language is presently available somewhere out there on the web.

BLISS's day has definitely come and gone, though. More recent VMS development has all been done in C.

Atlant 13:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)