Talk:Big Boss
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[edit] MPO Render
I uploaded the new render of the MPO version of Big Boss because it's a full body picture like the artwork from MGS and the MGS3 render. It looks better than the half shot anyhow.--Snake Liquid 01:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Some things to take in mind about Big Boss
·Name: Big Boss' real name is definetly unknown for the time being. Here it says Jack/John. Either of them can be the real one:
1-About Jack: At the beginning of the game Para-Medic asks Snake his real name already knowing that they call him Jack (And they call you Jack for short she says after he answered his name was John Doe). If Jack was actually his real name it would be silly to ask his name again,she actually knows that he is called Jack. That means Jack is definetly NOT his real name after all. Note also that if you choose the "I like MGS2" option before starting (when Snake weares the Raikov's Mask) there are a few calls with Major Tom which suggest that for some reason is better to hide Snake's true identity to the gunship crew. In fact everyone who knows him calls him Jack (the Major,The Boss)so he commonly uses Jack to be refered in some way but he doesn't want his real name to be known (maybe it's a really odd one xD,remember that he has japanesse ancestors). Also there is another reference to Raiden,who suggest that he dislikes his name (It's better that the one my parents gave mehe says to Snake in MGS2)
2-About John: He tells Para-Medic his name is John Doe trying to hide her his real name (we know that John Doe is bla bla bla a name used to hide someone's name or to identify someone without name), which is something that is clear for everyone. The next time he says his name is John is in the "Last Showdown" with Ocelot, at the same time he says John his mouth turns in a mock expression. He is clarely lying Ocelot, he knows that Ocelot will sure believe it because it's idolic seen of him, Ocelot is also younger and unnexperienced (that also suggests that Ocelot real name is in fact Adamska...). Also when Ocelot sees him off (So we meet again, John) Snake does that mocking smile again.
In almost every MGS Snake dislikes to reveal his name, because that links him to a person. And in fact in a mission could be something unnecesary A name means nothing in the battlefield, after a week, no one has a name both Solid and Big Boss say that. Solid Snake only reveales his name to Meryl and Otacon (can we doubt it that one? The cannonical final is the Meryl one...,just kidding). So,for the time being we really don't know Big Boss' real name so please change it to Unknown. And one more thing,where didi you get that Solidus named Raiden Jack after Big Boss?
·Age: People is starting to think that he was born in the 1930's, and that's not for sure. Liquid said that he was in his latest 50 when they created his copies, and that is impossible. He should be born late in the 20's,probably 1926 or 1927. It is said that he was in WWII as a teenage by his own will,but with 11-12 years...If he was born in the dates I said he could be in his first battle at at least 17-18,just like his sons. Also in 1964 (Snake Eater) he resembles much to Solid Snake in MGS2,who is 37 (and looks older by advanced cell degeneration). So he must be in a similar age,maybe a little older...born in 1925? Why not? There's no need that The Boss would be much older for teaching him, she has a lot more of experience and she also has been trained by the Philosophers' best. She could be born perfectly in 1920-1921 and Snake in 1925-1927.He would be 37-39 at Snake Eater,43-45 at MPO,45-47 being cloned,68-70 at Outer Heaven and 72-74 at Zanzibar Land.
·Nationality and etnicity: It is clear that he has japanese ancestors (Raven told it to Solid Snake,he also knew and their factions denote some etnic mix),but it's unclear how. There is some info in the net that says he was born in Hawaii, the third generation of a japanese-american family. It is also said that in the Pearl Harbour Incident he lost the american branch of his family while the japanese was imprisioned (that sounds a little fantastic...). Do any of you know something about this?
Black Dollar 19 November 2006
