Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smuts Hall

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smuts Hall

nn residence hall at the University of Cape Town. Universities are notable, student accommodation is not. No assertion as to this building's importance (either in general or to the university specifically) is made in the article. PROD disputed, therefore listing here. Delete Zunaid 09:31, 13 February 2006 (UTC). Additional comment: The level of detail described in this article is more suited to a page on [www.uct.ac.za UCT]'s website. An encyclopedia is meant to give a "arm's length view" on a topic, with extra detail where necessary. IMHO the extra detail is not required in this instance. Zunaid 07:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless notability and verifiability can be validated. -- Krash (Talk) 22:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into University of Cape Town. ¡Dustimagic! ^(T/C) 23:07, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This Hall is old and part of the history of the University of Cape Town. It should be kept but is not a good article. I think someone from SA should make a better job of it. Merging information on Halls and College into University main articles will not work well particularly if there are a lot of Halls. I am not sure about this University. I woulf like to help but I'm on wikibreak out of town and busy. --Bduke 06:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: If it is "not a good article", then it can always be deleted and a better one created in its place. Many articles survive AfD based on "keep and rewrite", without the rewrite subsequently taking place. Zunaid 07:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment (no vote) as a former student at UCT (who never resided in Smuts) I'd like to say the following: if any UCT residence could quilify as notable, Smuts and Fuller (the female equivelant) would. Firstly, it is located right on upper campus (where space is extremely limited), secondly, admission is limited to top students and, thirdly, the building itself could be considered notable (architecturally, etc.). The key is of course the if part; and I'm not sure how I'd vote on that one. (Note: I predict repeated recreation - Smuts men have a reputation). Mikker ^... 20:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep not the most notable building in the world, but it deserves an article. The article is, in my opinion, quite comprehensive and well written. Bobby1011 16:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Comprehensive and well-written it is, but the fact that there is exactly one mention of it in University of Cape Town means that the building is a locally semi-famous building. Than means it is NN. Cdcon 17:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, dorm falls below the mark notability as a landmark, place of cultural significance, or piece of architecture. Added a cleanup tag if this is kept because it needs an encyclopedic rewrite.--Isotope23 17:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep With a name like Smuts it has to be good --Ruby 17:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Sadly it was named after Jan Smuts.... This highly detailed article does not demonstrate notability or significance; delete as a non-notable university hall of residence. Sliggy 19:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment I apologise, I was not commenting on Field Marshal Smuts. I was attempting a (stupid & schoolboy) pun upon his name in response to the comment immediately above. {My vote remains delete.} Sliggy 15:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per Krash Guy 23:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as nn.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete The article is well written, but I don't think it's notable. -- Samir ∙ ^T_C 04:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep First of all, nothing wrong with it being named after Jan Smuts, he was after all one of SA's greatest statesmen. It's also the most famous residence at UCT, and it's certainly notable enough both for that and its architectural significance. — Impi 08:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• I commented earlier before it was relisted, so not sure whether I should comment again. This a great article about a prominant part of the university. It would not merge well into the main university article. I suspect that if it was called Smuts College, nobody would have a problem. I think it would be a great shame if this was deleted. So, I'm now for a strong keep. --Bduke 09:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletions. -- Humansdorpie 12:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BAI. Stifle 22:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.