Talk:Artificial membrane
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Aren't all membranes semi-permeable? That is, the whole point of a membrane is that it lets some things through and others not. Membranes by definition are permselective or semi-permeable barriers.
Some of this material can be folded into the cell membrane article while other stuff should go into the artificial membrane article. Journeyman 10:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, not all membranes are permeable. Some completely separate two things. While it is often the case in biology that they are permeable, in other disciplines they are not. pschemp | talk 14:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have answered issues related to cell membranes elsewhere. In my study of artificial membranes, they can be porous (eg. UF, MF) or non-porous (eg. RO) but they are always semi-permeable. The current artificial membrane article states that they permit "selective transport of material", i.e. they are semi-permeable.
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- I understand that in the building field, the word 'membrane' can describe a (non-permeable) lining used to waterproof floors, but in chemical engineering I believe membranes are always semi-permeable. Is it this build use that you mean? If so, then that's a good reason to have another article - one Building focused, the other Chem Eng focused. However, if you're talking about Chemical Engineering, I'd love some examples of impermeable membranes for my own education. Journeyman 01:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Ok, you don't need a merge tag to just move information around. I'm removing the tags as they propose to turn 3 articles into one as they are worded. Also, yes, I'm talking applications other than chemical engineering. As such, this article should still exists, but proabably be expanded. pschemp | talk 02:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Once the info was moved around, I was thinking of turning the semi-permeable membrane into a redirect to artificial membrane. My main issue here is that neither the artificial membrane nor the semi-permeable membrane articles discuss the non-chemical/non-biological uses of the terms. Therefore the semi-permeable membrane article can be turned into a redirect to artificial membrane, or a disambiguation to the cell and artificial membrane articles.
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- As the term artificial membrane is used in the field of membrane science and technology to discriminate between man-made and biological membranes, we need a separate article perhaps Membrane (construction) to cover the use you're talking about. Journeyman 02:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)