Talk:Around the World (Ami Suzuki song)

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[edit] On the title

User:NatsukiGirl has been posting the following message on many album pages:

I must note something very important for future editors of this page (also try to observe this for any non English speaking band or author... etc): If you see a single, album, dvd, concert, or book title that contains poor grammar, please consider that even though the English spelling or grammar may be incorrect, that it still may actually be the official title. If someone is searching for the single, and cannot find it the official way... then what good is wiki? Please do not tamper with titles unless you have found hard evidence that the title has been written incorrectly from the official spelling. also note, some OFFICIAL japanese titles are titled in all CAPS (or with stars and hearts or other "non-letter/number characters) this is NOT a mistake, please leave them like this. All one must do is observe the picture or written info of the single/album/book on the official page which is linked in the article at the bottom. Please help keep wikipedia encyclopedic and correct! Thank you. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 04:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The redirect in all caps is fine (that was the original setting). People searchign with all caps wil lbe sent to the right article. Natsuki's fail to explain why should we use all caps for japanese albums and not nglish albums (for instance, why shouldn't Curtain Call: The Hits be names CURTAIN CALL:THE HITS given the cd cover uses all caps?)

Now, the article itself could use all caps, and even explain that's an official title, this is about article naming (after all Encore (album) is not named "Encore (album)" but "Encore", article naming follows conventions for somre reason.

So far, I've only seen Natsuki arguing using proof by assertion, and no discussion whatsoever. So can't claim consensus exists for changing existing titles to all capitals.

User:Clouded mentioned on my talk:

Simply because wikipedia needs correct information, and those are the original titles. Japanese industry is different from occidental, and you'll never see Ami's song written "Around The World" never anywhere. Clouded 04:13, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

However, using different cases as the cd cover don't make the title incorrect (just differently typesetted). The argument would extend to "Since title was done using Arial font, any title must be done with Arial font or it would be incorrect." No, different typesetting doesn't render titles incorrect. And his last claim "and you'll never see Ami's song written "Around The World" never anywhere" is blatantly false: cdjapan.co.jp playasia.com jpophelp.com japantoday.com [1] [2] just to mention a few. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Drini. An absurdly high number of products have their names typeset in all capital letters. We do not automatically capitalise their article titles based upon this, unless it can be shown that the capitalisation is the result of a purposeful strategy on their part. Illiteracy or general poor language skills does not in my estimation count as a purposive effort in this way. Song or album article titles should use Title Case unless there is a compelling reason otherwise. - Mark 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I see that Ami Suzuki's name is also in all caps on the cover (and in decending-scope order). If the title being in all caps on the cover mandates that it be that way everywhere else, shouldn't it be the same with the name? Does japanese even have miniscule/majiscule lettering? It's a matter of layout, the all-caps looks bad. The layout of the album or single cover does not dictate the layout of the article.
—StationaryTraveller 05:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)