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Contents 1 Payment 2 "Warnings for AdSense Publishers" (now "Criticism of AdSense") section 3 Payment Method 4 The cost for webservers 5 External Link Spam 6 Blocking 7 External Link 8 Gooooogle 9 Creepiness 10 bid increment above what? 11 Can This Blog Be Added To The Main External Links? 12 New interesting link on adsense 13 Google Article On Adsense 14 Competitors (external links) 15 All about adsense 16 Starting a Public AdSense Abuse Database 17 Reference 18 Is this useful link?

[edit] Payment

This doesn't have the most important info: how much money do you get from them? How many hits does your site have to get for it to be worthwhile? — Chameleon 01:16, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It is against the Google's TOS to tell that.

Google will not allow clients to give specifics, but in general, it depends on the type of site, traffic generated, etc. I have a game site that has been up for more than a decade, which I maintain for fun. It receives several hundred hits per day. It's adsense revenue is less than $5.00 per month. I have am article site, designed specifically to take advantage of adsense revenue. It's been up less than a year, and receives comparable hits to the game site, but earns about $5/day. The difference is one is designed to take advantage of adsense, the other is designed to just be fun to visit. They attract different keywords. A click on the gamesite generates 1-3 cents. A click on the article site generates 1 cent up to five or six dollars. There are many, many, articles on adsense on the web.

'worthwhile'-ness is a point of view, and thus a moot issue for wikipedia. Also, it's no longer against AdSense TOS to talk about earnings. Eclipsed 20:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Although 'worthwhile'-ness may be a point of view issue, it might be helpful for someone to include the sort of facts which could allow someone to determine for themselves whether it would be worthwhile for them to take these ads. --Oolong 14:44, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not an expierienced Wikipediaer (Or something) so I won't try and add it myself, but I'll tell you all so someone else can add it, one click can get about 2c-15$ USD, depending on how much is payed to have the ad up. (it's a percentage, but the percent is unknown) --PokeOnic 18:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

And what about payment for 1000 impression? 83.77.161.178 21:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Warnings for AdSense Publishers" (now "Criticism of AdSense") section

From 61.149.36.253:

Google has been notorious to disable AdSense publisher accounts without notice, citing "invalid clicks", without shown proof or specific reasons why a publisher's account was disabled. Google also refuses to payout any earnings for accounts that were disabled, regardless if the clicks were valid or invalid, again, with no proof or investigation. Additionally, there is no method for a publisher to contact Google, except for a web form that is always answered by an autoresponder. Publishers must also be warned that an attacker can run a script with 3 lines of Perl code and disable any AdSense account in minutes. This lack of due diligence on Google's part, and Google's unwillingness to responed to affected publishers has many webmasters and publishers up in arms. A quick search of the web for the terms "disabled AdSense" or "boycott google" will turn up hundreds of examples. Advertisers should also be weary of Google's pay per click AdWords advertising, considering many of the banned AdSense publishers routinely "click for fun" on AdSense ads in retalliation to Google regarding it's policies. Besides, it is still unclear to the public if Google really returns the remaining funds in disabled AdSense accounts to relevant advertisers. Advertisers interests may be undermined in such black-box operations.

Can anyone back this up with some references and/or hard numbers? I don't see very much in the way of concrete evidence. æle ✆ 22:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

This happened to our own site only last month (which is why I'm visiting this article, because this matter IMO needs more coverage). Our account was disabled for "invalid clicks" with no details given. After a thorough investigation on our part (Google refused to disclose any information that would have helped us narrow it down), we determined that one or two forumites had taken it upon themselves to randomly click on ads every once in a while, with the intent of helping the site out. This was done without administrator permission. We replied to Google with a joint email that the admins worked on, as a team, to make sure it sounded polite, clear, and through; and we did this for each email they sent us. We received a total of three emails from Google during this process, all sounding very much like form letters and giving no indication that they had considered or even read our defense (other than the cryptic "after reviewing the additional information"). Finally they flat-out denied our appeal and prohibited us from contacting them again.

At no time during the process did they offer any justification for any action they took, or any indication that they were reading our correspondence. They never answered any questions we asked them. We felt like bugs on a windshield. 204.145.242.1 21:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Request: I would like to request content on prohibited use of Google Adsense in depth, for example, promoting sites that contain Google Adsense using autosurf, and whether it is accepted to promote blogs with Google Adsense using services such as blogadvance, blogmad and blogexplosion

I had my AdSense account disabled without warning and was given an autoresponder message that it was due to clickfraud. I was not allowed to even discuss the matter, and never even got to speak to a representitive of Google. I have never participated in such fraudulent behavior and it is insulting to be accused of this. I have seen numerous reports of similar things happening but unfortunately they are usually people posting on blogs that discuss advertising options. The worst thing about my experience with AdSense was that I never could get in touch with a live human being to discuss problems with my account. I had tried to email them over an issue of ads not displaying on certain pages and never got anything other than automated messages and then when I tried to appeal my account be deactivated I had to deal with the same crap. I am a huge fan of Google in other respects, but this experience has really made me think twice about them. I'm sure that there will be more vocal critics in the future if this type of treatment continues. Sorry I can't provide you more than anecdotal evidence, but at the moment it is the only thing I can offer. Vaginsh 19:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The same thing happened to me and all my sites. Disabled with no chance of appeal, lost about $150 woth of revenue. I emailed several Google times but they just said they could not discuss it. It appears that either my name/address or websites are on some kind of block list now. Because I recently tried signing up again and i was not approved. Because my approval was unsuccessfull I cannot re-apply even with new websites because my two emails @evilmerc.com and @gmail.com are now not allowed to be used on adsense? Awful --Mercifull 10:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Payment Method

I would like to know what the method of payment is for google adsense is.. check, credit card?

Google will pay by paypal or check. Their advertising programs are documented here: Google Ad Information GameMan

[edit] The cost for webservers

I really feel that the math example of how much the millions of requests costs Google, is irrelavant. It doesn't lead you to any conclusions, except that i requires a awful lot of money

• Agree; it is arbitrary amounts made up with no basis in actual research. The real numbers, as anyone who deals with money knows, are probably wildly different than this utopian estimate. 128.175.205.52 00:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Link Spam

The external links section on this page is constantly altered to include spam. Is there some sort of protection that could be placed on this page so that wikipedians don't have to babysit it?--Geedubber 18:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding page protection, "protection" and "semi-protection" are occasionally used, the former in cases of extreme editing disputes, and the later for extreme cases of vandalism by anonomous or new users. Usually, occasional spamming isn't much of a problem to remove, but semi-protection can be placed on a page if it's being attacked by a number of open-proxy/sockpuppet spam-bots. Linkspamremover (talk • contribs) seems to be rather active at removing anything perceived as link-spam, and I also have this page and a few others on my watchlist, so I can pick up wherever Linkspamremover leaves off, and it isn't too much of a bother. — TheKMan^talk 18:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocking

What does everyone think about including info on how to block Adsense ads from displaying? Alternately, perhaps the page can link to the pages on ad filtering or the hosts file.

[edit] External Link

I think this link should be kept in the external links section: www.discussitonline.com DiscussItOnline - Community about improving AdSense Performance

Rather than adding a link to your personal website, consider adding content to this Wikipedia article. The thing with this page is that it attracts spam links and "example" websites. Such links are discouraged and will often be removed on sight. — TheKMan^talk 15:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gooooogle

can anyone explain why some adsense blocks have "google" headings containing more than 2 o's? Goooooogle

Hmm, perhaps so it's more eye catching? I've also heard that it was some sort of test by Google. Not entirely sure though. — TheKMan^talk 16:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Is number of o's specified by the user or automated? If automated, how so? Random or parametric? etc.

Six O:s for targeted/relevant ads. Two O:s for random untargeted ads. http://adsense.blogspot.com/2006/02/gooooood-question.html 81.229.109.4 20:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• That may be true, but your reference doesn't say that. 128.175.205.52 00:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Creepiness

What about something about how creepy it is to open an email in gmail and see ads on the right side of the screen for something mentioned in the email?

[edit] bid increment above what?

"Additionally, for any given click received, advertisers only pay one bid increment above the second-highest bid."

I don't understand this sentence. --Gbleem 13:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can This Blog Be Added To The Main External Links?

Hey Fellow Wikipedians

I believe this blog Adsense Success should be considered to be added to the Main page. Why? This Blog Gives great advice to anyone who is trying to use google adsense to make money for their website or weblog. Its all free advice, and the page is not piled high with spam and affilaite links here is the site adress: adsense4sure.blogspot.com Adsense Success Official Blog

Hi. I don't think it really adds much to the article. Thanks but no thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 01:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New interesting link on adsense

Hello ,

please can i place this link (http://bo uazza.che zda vid.ath.c x/forum/discussion/15/quelques-renseignements-sur-google-adsense/ Google AdSense tips for beginners] ) on the article ? Its not a spam , its an adsense guide for beginners , and its my own hand writing content , its not copied from another website .

Thanks !

PS : Sorry if my english was bad :S .

It's in French, contains no useful or meaningful information, and is full of adverts. Please read the external link guidelines, which would indicate a negative response. Linkspamremover 19:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Google Article On Adsense

This article gives some good hints and tips on Adsense, would make a good link on the external links section.

www.imafish .co.uk/articles/post/articles/124/making-money-through-google-adsense Making Money Through Adsense

Wikipedia is not a link directory nor is it a vehicle for advertising. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Competitors (external links)

Why not include external links to the sites of Adsense competitors?

• http://www.collogic.com is one of them, for instance.

Because Wikipedia is not a collection of external links. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 09:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All about adsense

All about adsense from A-Z. http://adsenseinfo.bravehost.com/ Check it out.

[edit] Starting a Public AdSense Abuse Database

Please, report AdSense abuse and policy violations to the AdSense Abuse Google Group. Post the violating website and the advertisers that are being cheated. --jeolmeun 11:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference

After much discussion with the page administrator ZimZalaBim I have been given the permission to assign citation to techshout rather than eweek. The reason for the change is listed below.

I have studied all posts on the issue available on the internet. But the original article on techshout had the most detailed explanation in this matter. It also showed example picture of this Trojan running which the eweek article didn’t have. Due to the fact it broke the story and as it contained the most detailed information on the Trojans activity, it deserves to be in the reference rather than the eweek article which has derived all the information from the original source (techshout) and added quotes.

Zack1234 16:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

To be clear, I am not "the page administrator" but just another Wikipedian who also is an administrator, and I didn't give (or could withhold) "permission" for Zack's edit. I merely provided advice. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 16:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this useful link?

I've found http://adzenze.googlepages.com It's claimed as AdSense Blog Agregator containing latest entries from Google AdSense Official Blog, del.icio.us/popular/adsense, WordPress Tagged AdSense and another blog. I think it's nice enough because of displaying various intro opinion about AdSense from various source currently. So, is that including useful link can be placed in this AdSense article? Thanks before.125.160.98.238 07:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)