Wikipedia:Kōrero/2004
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Wikipedia:Kōrero, Pūranga 2004 (1)
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[edit] Macrons
[edit] Purpose of this page
I thought that Körero would be like current events. I used the same word to mean "discuss this page". Please correct me if I have incorrect usage. Perl 13:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I've now (as reported recently) added "this page" in Maori to the "Discuss this page" link, so no confusion; "Körero" seems fine for the name of this page unless we want to keep with the "tavern" theme! Robin Patterson 02:27, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Editing
To edit the current events link on the sidebar, edit MediaWiki:Currentevents; and to edit the translation of "discuss this page", edit MediaWiki:Talkpage. (For other sidebar items there are MediaWiki:Movethispage , MediaWiki:Randompage, MediaWiki:Whatlinkshere and MediaWiki:Editthispage). Please look over those pages and make sure I have translated them correctly. I have made you [Vardion] an administrator on this wikipedia so that you may edit the protected messages. Best wishes, Perl 13:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Pakeha promotion of this site
Tēnā koutou.
My Māori consists of a few phrases (which I expect to increase every day I watch Whakaata Māori (Māori Television) and recognition of not much more than 100 words (including most of those used in the Resource Management Act 1991).
I'm happy to browse here and tinker editorially/structurally where it might help.
- Robin Patterson 06:46, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Now distinctly more proficient after 4 months of Maori Television and reading grammar books on the train! Robin Patterson 23:03, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Noticing the dearth of contributors, I wonder whether any registered contributors would see anything wrong with the idea of contacting iwi and other groups through their websites, telling them about the Māori Wikipedia, and encouraging them to suggest to their members and associates that contributing would be a good way of promoting te reo Māori. :Robin Patterson 00:36, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I think that would be a great idea. I was vaguely considering something along those lines, but I wouldn't have any idea how to do it. Even if we just get a brief mention in a newsletter or something, it may attract a few more contributors. (My own understanding of Māori is highly limited, although I hope to improve it over time). Anyway, welcome aboard. -- Vardion 01:35, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks, Vardion. I'll give some more thought to approaching iwi.
- Meantime, in case some readers are interested, here's what I wrote the other day to Māori Television:
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- Tena koutou.
- I'm one of your pakeha fans since enjoying 3 hours on your opening day and an average of an hour a day since.
- I've profiled a couple of your pages in suitable categories on the Web directory www.zeal.com , where I have some influence. One of the recent additions is probably visible here: http://www.zeal.com/category/preview.jhtml?cid=10144994
- There is also mention on www.wikipedia.com - eg here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Zealand_television_channels - but little or none on the Maori Wikipedia: maybe some of your people could help promote te reo by contributing there: http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te_reo_maori
- If your web experts decide to change any URLs, a note to me would ensure that the Zeal and Wikipedia references are updated rather than being lost or deleted.
- E noho ra.
- Robin Patterson
- Robin Patterson 23:00, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I've now told the Maori Language Commission about us, got an entry on the Community Panui, and asked Pipers to add the WP to their list of New Zealand language and education websites. Robin Patterson 20:13, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Machinery and software issues
[edit] Page views
Please, someone, try to organise the appropriate bit of software so that we no longer get told that all our pages have 0 views:
- http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics
- Robin Patterson 01:35, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- Page views are no longer recorded for performance reasons. A sysop will need to edit MediaWiki:Sitestatstext to remove the reference to page views. You may want to translate the English version which no longer mentions this. Angela 19:39, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks, Angela - Robin (I fixed it just after Anzac Day)
- Page views are no longer recorded for performance reasons. A sysop will need to edit MediaWiki:Sitestatstext to remove the reference to page views. You may want to translate the English version which no longer mentions this. Angela 19:39, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Images
How do we "copy" images from other Wikipedias into this one? (I really have tried to find out, by studying at least a dozen pages about images!) Robin Patterson 02:27, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- A frequently asked question (it should be added to a FAQ somewhere really). It is not currently possible to move images between Wikipedias. You have to download the image to your own computer (often right clicking on it will give you this option), and then re-upload that to the Wikipedia you want the image to be copied to. It's best to copy images that have some sort of source mentioned, or that state that are released under the GFDL, or are public domain. Add interlanguage links between the two so that if one is found to be a copyright violation, the other one can be deleted as well. There are plans for the future for all images to be on one site to save having to upload them separately to each Wikipedia. Angela 02:14, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Thank you, Angela. I've copied that to a reasonably suitable place here for wider dissemination. - Robin
[edit] Images progress since Sep 2004
See "COMMONS" - Robin Patterson 00:31, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Templates
[edit] Stub message
Do we have a Māori equivalent of: {{msg:stub}} that says something meaningful?
- Robin Patterson 06:46, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- - We do now; I worked THAT one out all by myself Robin Patterson 12:33, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- and, of course, you no longer need the "msg:" part; so just "stub" inside those curly brackets will produce the Māori and English message with lines above and below. Robin Patterson 20:13, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Progress
Kia ora koutou! Progress and thoughts following Anzac Day 2004 (and please feel free to add indented comments (ie starting with a colon) to any of these paragraphs!):
You'll have noticed that I haven't lost interest in this project. Annoyed with myself for not finishing that Administrators list - I seem to have been distracted then deleted that window after carelessly leaving it with quite a lot more composed and previewed. If I don't finish it soon, maybe someone else will - it needs only three more sysops to be named and should have Brion listed among the "others".
Planning to create numerous "lists" (rārangi) pages, including a list of lists (!) and things like colours - (rārangi kano) - and months - (rārangi marama) (I hope those are right - see below) so as to make the contribution of one or two words at a time easy for those of us who speak hardly any Māori and can read only a little more. Some of them will be tables, with Māori words listed in alpha order and English equivalents opposite.
I think we need a separate page for agreed styles (preferably with a proper Māori name - any offers?). Maybe it could start with a link to the English style page and say we follow that except for the "following" specific points, either of difference or where the English one has no equivalent (eg macrons).
- We now have one - see "Tikanga". 27/28 April.
Another small machinery matter is how we deal with having variants of words, eg Maori and Māori and maori. Obviously [?] our article would be under the preferred heading, with redirects from the other[s] so that the less skilled writers can link their variant even if they don't pick the preferred one - but those of you with experience in other Wikipedias may be able to steer me in a better direction there! The "problem" would arise whenever we got an expert opinion saying one of our page titles wasn't good Māori; but I guess moving or renaming is the way to do that; I hope we get some expert speakers soon, so as not to have to change too much.
It would be neat if anyone reading this page could add a "Hello" or "Kia ora" line at the bottom just to give us some idea whether anyone's reading it all!
That's all I can think of for now. If replying to any of these paras, please feel free to move them up or down to old or new headings as appropriate, for easier following of the sense and thread. Kind regards - Robin Patterson 10:02, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Milestone - more than 50 articles, so when you click on Long pages you no longer see the shortest page! (Now can someone else add a few dozen names of NZ Governors to Rārangi Kāwana?) - Robin Patterson 22:30, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Relevant articles in the English Wikipedia
Just thought I should include a link to User:A Pakeha's contribution Wikipedia:Wikipedia English Language articles about Maori subjects so's we don't forget what a valuable resource it is. - Robin, 27 April.
[edit] Haere mai
kia ora my names ash - 19:22, 18 Oct 2004 210.54.53.13
Kia Ora ^_^
Nō Waikato rāua ko Hauraki a au
He tauira a au e, e haere atu ana ki te whare wānanga ako ai i te wetereo o te reo Māori ^_^ Ehara au i te tohunga, i te atamai rānei, otirā, he hinengaro tōku te āwhina atu ra ki te whakatupu i tēnei mahi.
Ka huri atu au i konei.
