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Contents 1 Athlone 2 A satisfied customer emails... 3 Invalid username 4 Singapore / Starhub block 5 A25 road 6 "Angry Bahraini" 7 194.154.22.54 8 Categories named after politicians 9 Category:Categories named after religious figures 10 Award 11 Why? 12 thanks 13 Message Blanking 14 72.144.120.153 15 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Athlone

Not sure whose page I should be posting my reply on, so I covered the angles! Ian, I understand the deletion of my "edit". Unfortunately while I know for certain the climate data for Athlone is incorrect, I don't know a source of any correct data. User talk:Sarah777 (Sarah777 02:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC))

Go on. I'll ask. How do you know the data is incorrect if you don't know the correct data? Ian Cairns 02:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Or put it another way. The existing data has a source - Yahoo! weather - maybe right, maybe wrong, but cited and verifiable. If you can provide an alternative verifiable source - then you can be bold and replace the data with your new values. But Wikipedia needs to know where the replacement data is coming from. Otherwise, there could be suggestions that any new data is unverifiable - and that data will probably be reverted until its verifiable source can be identified. Ian Cairns 02:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow! That's quick. The average Max in July and August (23c) and average Min. in January (-3c) are well beyond the Irish range. Rainfall figures look OK. My guess is the data are based on some climate model that Yahoo accessed and not on recorded data. (Sarah777 02:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC))

It's like you read that Little-Haywains-Hamlet-on-Tyne has an average July max. of 33c and average January min of -10c. But could you insert the correct figures; with references?! (Sarah777 02:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC))

I looked on Google and there was one other source - which had different data. But I've no way of knowing which was the correct data. Yahoo! ought to be citable... Perhaps you can identify the best source? Ian Cairns 02:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ian, the data at [1] (scroll down to graph, put mouse over temp bar to read the figures) seem to be correct. It appears several weather services on the web use Knock Airport data for Athlone.Knock is sixty miles NW of Athlone on an exposed hilltop and has a cooler and much wetter and windier climate. No other source I've found has figures like Yahoo - which, as I said, I guess is the product of a model. (Sarah777 14:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC))

Fine. Go for it. You can now substantiate / cite your editing. I appreciate that little WP editing is cited, as it ought to be, but you were going to knock out a cited source. Fine if it's replaced by an alternative sourced citation.BW, Ian Cairns 14:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A satisfied customer emails...

why do you have to block me for a week? Don't be fascist, don't go on a power trip, I understand that you hold a policing position as far as wikipedia goes but what the hell, seriously its not that severe. Honestly, i've made worse edits than that one, yet you have to step in and ban me for a week. I HOPE ALL YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN DIE !!!!!! <notorious ejc> - rescued from my spam folder and transcribed by Ian Cairns 20:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invalid username

Hi - have posted a reply on my talk page. Cheers. --Oscarthecat 22:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singapore / Starhub block

On Nov 9th you blocked a shared IP address at Singapore's Starhub ISP 218.186.9.2 (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log). Prior blocks of the address had used anon-only and account creation allowed; yours on first inspection doesn't appear to have. Would you consider changing this to an anon-only block? We recieved a collateral damage complaint to the unblock-en-l mailing list.

Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 22:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No problems. Thanks for raising this. Ian Cairns 22:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I've just checked and another admin beat me to this 10 mins ago. Ian Cairns 22:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A25 road

Hi! Just a quick note to let you know that the prod appears to be related to the one I put on Norwood Road. In fact it is an identical comment. Would you have any objections to me removing it? Regan123 03:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem at all. I can't see the logic of these particular prods. Thanks, Ian Cairns 07:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Angry Bahraini"

Hi, the anon 89.148.41.143 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log) that User:Zora reported on WP:AIV is a repeat offender who has been on a harassment campaign against her, mechanistically and blindly reverting edits by her - always with a new dynamic IP of course. Given the repeat nature and the obvious malicious intent (these reverts are all done blindly and totally without regard to content), I don't think there's any need for warnings. If he strikes again and you see him on AIV, I'd suggest just blocking on sight. Thanks! Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've suggested Zora takes this to WP:ANI as well. Ian Cairns 10:10, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, sorry I didn't notice you were already discussing it on Zora's page. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 194.154.22.54

Hi there, did you block 194.154.22.54 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log) anon-only? It has history of collateral damage. Personally I'd go for >1 month. Thanks/wangi 11:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Wangi. You are obviously more experienced with this user and I have no problem with you un/reblocking on that basis. I'll be back there in a few minutes. Thanks, Ian Cairns 11:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Apologies - our blocks / unblocks clashed. Hopefully, my overwrite is still OK with you? Let me know if not. Thanks, Ian Cairns 11:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Aye, should be good. Thanks/wangi 11:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories named after politicians

Please note that Category:Categories named after politicians is not redundant with filing such a category in a country-specific category. In fact, that type of categorization is explicitly required on categories named directly for an individual person. Bearcat 08:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that - and apologies for the delay in replying. As far as I see this, there are two parallel category hierarchies being used, for example: Category: Politicians and Category: Categories named after Politicians but there are several examples. Both are self-evidently categories - the former fits into an extensive hierarchy and has huge numbers of articles and sub-categories; the latter 'meta' category is either a pleonastic tautology or a tautological pleonasm, and contains very few articles or subcategories. By splitting categories into one or the other of the two hierarchies, but not both, we are ensuring that we have no one complete / comprehensive hierarchy. I was 'bold editing' one of these smaller 'meta' categories to ensure Wikipedia had one usable complete hierarchy - Wiki users are not going to check both hierarchies. Perhaps I am missing some deep understanding here. Ian Cairns 09:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Categories named after religious figures

Why was this deleted? It appears to have been in use, and I can't find any evidence of it being on CFD. It also parallels various categories in Category:Categories named after people. Mairi 03:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay in replying - due to recent absence. I've moved this discussion here to follow the previous discussion. As you will see, I considered the Category: x and Category: Categories names after x as broadly comparable and duplicate. My bold editing involved moving articles back to the more complete category hierarchy instead of leaving subcats and articles in one of two similar categories. I have no propblem if you wish to reinstate the category. However, all these categories needs better context to explain why subcats / articles go in one category but not in the other. These similar categories also need cross-linking. Ian Cairns 01:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

		The Khan Beshov Award
		Given to Icairns, for there contribution to Khan Beshov's page. —Intergr8;φ 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Many thansk for this - but all I did was to dab a link and add a category... Are you sure this was worth a barnstar?? Thanks again, Ian Cairns 09:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why?

With all due respect, why did you block me from entering the nobel physics prize page? please respond as soon as you can. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rapigan (talk • contribs).

I am investigating - but I do not remember blocking your username. Please supply details (and sign your name afterwards). Ian Cairns 18:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Ref Special:Contributions/Rapigan, I can see no attempt to edit Nobel Prize pages.

I can confirm that your username has never been blocked

Is it possible that someone else is sharing your IP address and they have vandalised, causing your IP address to be blocked, and catching your username in the collateral damage? If so, let me know and I'll investigate further. Please sign your reply/replies. Ian Cairns 19:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Mabey...but thank you very much anyway. -Rapigan

[edit] thanks

Thank you for reverting my userpage Natasha 22:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You are most welcome. BW Ian Cairns 09:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Message Blanking

Shotwell is doing exactly the same thing!!!--Tony X Liu 19:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I can see him reverting your vandalism. Can you indicate where he is blanking messages? Ian Cairns 19:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 72.144.120.153

While this user's edits may appear to be content dispute, they are in actuality vandalism. In the user's second edit, he/she made a noticeable bit of vandalism by cutting off one end of a heading, and most recently changed the character's age from initial 15 to 12. The little regards to spelling/capitalization is also a dead giveaway. The information being added is nothing more than a random assortment of cards. --Benten 19:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. Did you try opening up a line of discussion before +test4 ? I'll monitor for a while, Thanks. Ian Cairns 19:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I will now, but I didn't see it as necessary given the very obvious nature of the edits. Likely, the user will just continue to vandalize though. --Benten 19:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can