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Contents 1 Documentation 2 Example 3 Discussion of the Infobox Book code pattern template 4 Media type 5 Mandatory use of the problematic "fair use" material 6 Country?

[edit] Documentation

This is a WikiProject article pattern belonging to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels. It is to be used as a starting block for new Template:Infobox Book inclusions and as aid to restyle existing inclusions.

[edit] Example

The layout for this infobox can be seen on the Master and Commander page.

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Result

{{Infobox Book | name = Master and Commander | image = [[Image:Master_&_Commander_cover.jpg|200px|Cover by Geoff Hunt for ''Master and Commander''.]] | image_caption = First edition cover | author = [[Patrick O'Brian]] | illustrator = | cover_artist = Geoff Hunt | country = [[United Kingdom]] | language = [[English language|English]] | series = [[Aubrey-Maturin series]] | genre = [[Historical novel]] | publisher = [[Harper Collins]] (UK) | release_date = [[1 September]] [[1970]] | media_type = Print ([[Hardcover]] & [[Paperback]]) & Audio Book ([[Compact audio cassette|Cassette]], [[Compact Disc|CD]]) | pages = 352 pages (hardcover edition) & 352 pages (paperback edition) | isbn = ISBN ? (hardcover edition) & ISBN 0006129137 (paperback edition UK) | preceded_by = | followed_by = [[Aubrey-Maturin series#Post Captain|Post Captain (Novel)]] }}

Master and Commander First edition cover Author Patrick O'Brian Cover Artist Geoff Hunt Country United Kingdom Language English Series Aubrey-Maturin series Genre(s) Historical novel Publisher Harper Collins (UK) Released 1 September 1970 Media Type Print (Hardcover & Paperback) & Audio Book (Cassette, CD) Pages 352 pages (hardcover edition) & 352 pages (paperback edition) ISBN ISBN ? (hardcover edition) & ISBN 0006129137 (paperback edition UK) Followed by Post Captain (Novel)

[edit] Discussion of the Infobox Book code pattern template

Edit out the example if you think it isn't needed. Figured it would be quite helpful for Novel project people to see an example of the Novel project style. Note: Actual book uses Hardback, and only has the year for release date. Example changed to fit complete format.MikeBriggs 15:53, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Media type

When we list the media type, should we be listing all the versions that are out, or the 1st edition type? Currently I'm only listing hardcover and paperback for most novels and not including ebook types. Are we only trying to list first edition details or something more? Grey Shadow 13:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I would say, All (or at least all major) and that is what I have been adding. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mandatory use of the problematic "fair use" material

The infobox includes the requirement to include cover image which almost never has the appropriate license. The cover images are marked as a "fair use". While it may be possible to tolerate this, probably we should not enforce uploading and using such images, as the author may decide, at any time, that the use is not so fair. In some cases, the supporters of the free information have designed they own alternative illustrations, but the legally problematic material was returned back motivating that the "infobox is incomplete", and the proprietary book image is the only image having right to be in the info box. Mind that some portals like German do not accept the "fair use" at all. I suggest at least clearly state that the book image is optional and can be replaced by the appropriate alternative illustration, if available. Audriusa 07:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I will change the documentation to respond to the spirit of this! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Country?

I've encountered some confusion regarding the country designation in the infobox. Some contributors believe it is supposed to indicate the nationality of the author, while others think it is meant to reflect the country in which the work was first published. An example would be, Generation X, a book by a Canadian author (Douglas Coupland), published in the United States (by St. Martin's Press- indeed, there has never been a Canadian edition of the novel). I've not been able to uncover any discussion about this matter. Any assistance would be appreciated. Victoriagirl 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Good point, I would belive this relates to "where" the novel comes from. I.e. the nationality of the author being foremost in that. However if there is any doubt about this issue the nation of 1st publication would suit. However this does need to be discussed and clarified. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)