Talk:Quirinus Quirrell
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In case anyone is wondering, I put the entymology of Quirrell's name after the spoiler warning, because I thought the "quarrel" part of it was too much of a spoiler.
I feel his affiliation is not 'Death Eaters'. He bumped into Voldemort on his travels and ended up being possessed. He wasn't a dead eater, or even inherently evil. I think he should better be listed as a 'Hogwarts teacher'. - 131.211.151.221 08:24, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- "Hogwarts teacher" is not an affiliation by the definition I'm using. Affiliation here states, in Snape's words, "where your loyalties lie."
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- Yes, and Quirrell robbed Gringotts before Voldemort took over his body. I think Quirrell, unlike Ginny Weasley, was acting of his free will. After all, he was clearly proud of serving Voldemort, and didn't try to work aganist him as Ginny did (by trying to destroy the diary, tell Harry, etc.)
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- I agree that he's not a Death Eater, even though Voldemort persuaded Quirrell to support him. The Death Eaters, I believe, are limited to Voldemort's core supporters the first time he became powerful. I don't think Quirrell was Voldemort's ally long enough to achieve this distinction (or that he has the Dark Mark to prove it). neatnate 06:48, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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- Well...it would be kind of pointless from him to have the Dark Mark on his arm, because Voldemort's right on the back of his head. Quirrell, I must say, considers himself a follower of Voldemort. On the other hand, Voldemort probably doesn't consider Quirrell anything more than an idiot he happened to stumble on and could control easily, but "Death Eater" was defined in the books as "what Voldemort's followers call themselves," and not what "Voldemort call his followers." I don't know if Voldemort even consider Peter Pettigrew, for instance, more than another idiot he happened to stumble on and could control easily and we all agree Pettigrew was a Death Eater.
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[edit] Did he teach earlier?
I think in the Philosopher's Stone, it's written that Quirrell taught earlier, but in HBP it says that every year there has been a new DADA teacher. I'm assuming that Quirrell taught one year, took a year off, and then taught another year. What do you think?
I think he did teach before, because Hagrid for one is very familiar with him prior to the school year starting. But the "jinx" as Dumbledore spelled it out in HBP says that they have never been able to keep a DADA teacher for more than a year. I think that rules out non-consecurive DADA years as well. So I'd guess he taught something before, not DADA. No idea what it would have been though. (Of course, this may be a bit of a goof on JKR's part... has she ever talked about this?) ---Ransom
Voldemort, Dumbledore claims, jinxed the job in 1957 (and HOW? exactly?). Quirrell died in 1992, and subsequently, Dumbledore found it difficult to replace him (ending up resorting to Lockhart). How could he even manage to keep staffing the job that long (short of some farcical, pointless and unbelievable system of two teachers taking alternate years)? Michaelsanders 23:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quirrell's death
The article says:
There Harry discovered that Voldemort's face was on the back of Quirrell's head and in the ensuing struggle, Quirrell died, not being able to withstand Harry's touch, which burned him. Dumbledore said of this that Voldemort left as little mercy to his followers as his enemies.
This seems to go along the lines of the movie. In the book the burning manifested as reddened skin, blisters, and intense pain (not destruction as in the movie); this held Quirrell off long enough for Dumbledore to arrive. The actual cause of Quirrell's death is given as Voldemort leaving his body.
[edit] The Color
See Talk: Barty Crouch Jr., and the edit war on color. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luvtheheaven (talk • contribs) 17:13 27 March 2006 (UTC).
Explain to me why you are posting this on several HP characters' talk pages when we are more than capable of discussing it on just the one? I have them all in my watchlist. Please sign your posts with ~~~~; it's really not that big of an effort and it lets us know who commented when. Thank you. — NathanHP (T • C • W) 07:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)oops, sorry?
This topic of Info Box Colours is being discussed on the Harry Potter Project talk page please put forth you views there, to try and reach a consensus. Also could I please remind everybody to remain civil and respect other peoples opinions. Thanks. Death Eater Dan 
(Muahaha) 23:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I was corrected - the correct infobox colours are at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Harry_Potter/Templates#Colours. — NathanHP (T • C • W) 05:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thestrals and seeing Quirrell die
This is just a placeholder for discussion in case this edit (and my reversion of it) is disputed any further. I believe that Harry Potter not seeing thestrals despite seeing Quirrell die is not a plot hole or goof because he doesn't see Quirrell die in the book (he passes out before that happens), while in the films, thestrals have yet to be explained. Even if thestrals are explained in the films, this can be mentioned as goofs in the articles about the films, not in this article, because I would consider books to be much higher on the canon scale than the films. --Deathphoenix ʕ 17:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
