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Talk:Queer studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Talk:Queer studies

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The term "Queer studies" is used by scholars who seek to elevate the status of homosexuality and transgenderism to that of academic discipline worthy of scholar study and emulation.

Surely you didn't think this was NPOV, Ed. What you've written makes the very clear implication that this "elevation" "sought" is not kosher (besides its grammatical contortions). Especially given your little comment - as if only heterosexuals and heterosexual lives are worthy of academic interest.

Advocates who promote the use of the term typically complain that LGBT people constitute a class of "The Other" subject to persistent and brutal bodily repression and as such ought to be protected by any society which places emphasize on inclusiveness and diversity.

This, on the other hand, is simply material that was repeated in subsequent paragraphs. - Montrealais


As with the "Queer Theory" article . . . this is nothing but insulting. More than this, it is highly fradulent and dangerously wrong. If one if my students, or god forbid, a real live "homoseuxal" fell upon this page, who knows what could happen. I'm all for re-creating a "Queer Studies" page, but let's do it with a feeling of non-partsianship - and one based on the actual work done in this area. 24.250.249.103 08:58, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)L

That isn't helpful. What, in particular, is wrong with the article? Blanket statements such as "fraudulent" and "wrong" serve hardly any purpose to the improvement of the article.
Regardless, the removal of external, see also, category, and interwiki links is entirely inappropriate. Dysprosia 09:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

if you don't see what's wrong with the messy-ness of this article ...Lantog 09:05, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How else are we supposed to improve the article unless you don't say exactly what's wrong with it? This is what Talk pages are for. Dysprosia 09:06, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see no evidence that the study of issues relating to sexual orientation and gender identity is known as "queer studies". This sounds like a term someone is promoting, and I think Wikipedia should identify who's promoting it. Better still, describe the POV they seek to promote by encouraging the use of this term. Uncle Ed 03:33, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

All one has to do for evidence is google "queer studies" and 8 of the first 10 links are to .edu sites describing a program of studies at that school named "queer studies". Dgwicks 15:19, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, Ed, since with what you don't know (or is that what you don't want to know?) half a dozen people could easily embarass themselfes, I don't thing that the fact that you don't see something is decidedly not a conclusive evidence of its nonexistance. And you know, the charge "I don't know this, so people must be soapboxing" is really getting old by now. Also, you might want to explain what the 64.000 Google results given for "queer studies" are about is not about - well, queer studies. -- AlexR 10:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I wish you would stop making hurtful personal remarks to me. When you say things like with what you don't know (or is that what you don't want to know?) half a dozen people could easily embarass themselfes it discourages me from wanting to help edit this article. If I make a mistake, please correct me gently and suavely, with good grace or good humor, but never with incivility. Uncle Ed 12:32, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

AlexR is right, though. It sounds a lot like you're trying to object to this topic based on your lack of knowledge about it, which is precisely why the page has been started in the first place. If you find no evidence for something, it's helpful to perhaps look for it. TomSkylark 06:01, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Heres a question... Why is it that this page is still branded non-neutral. I agree that there is no problem with the page and thus we should take it off the pov list. It has been over a month...

A brief mention about City College of San Francisco was added to the list of academic institutions. rasax ~22:00, 16 November 2005.

[edit] Page move

I moved the page back to "queer studies" after it was recently moved to "sexual diversity studies". Personally the term "queer studies" is much more familiar to me, as well as to google (by a factor of ten). Is there any reason to prefer the other term? ntennis 08:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The term "queer" is offensive to many in almost any context. I suggest it be moved back to Sexual diversity studies. ~iNVERTED | Rob (Talk | Contribs) 20:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not censored for profanity or language deemed offensive, so the article should be named according to the usual naming conventions, which require using the most common name for the subject. In this case, the most common name is pretty clearly "queer studies." There's a decent discussion of the politics of the word queer at the article of that name, anyway. -- Rbellin|Talk 20:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Is this topic really called "queer studies" in academic circles? I have never heard the word queer used outside of a derogatory context, and I think there's serious potential to offend people with this title. This is especially important because it's part of the title of the template on all LGBT-related articles. —Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 02:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Recognizing that Google isn't the definitive source, a search return 250K pages for "queer studies" and 17K pages for "sexual diversity studies". -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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