Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases

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  1. 14 October 2004 – 27 May 2006
  2. 18 May 2006 – 17 September, 2006


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[edit] Four more articles that need work

United States v. Constantine, Morissette v. United States, Williamson v. Lee Optical Co., and Owen Equipment & Erection Co. v. Kroger all need a good deal of work. If anyone has some time to kill, you might want to have a look at these. --Eastlaw 04:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look at Williamson later today. Peyna 14:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New PCA?

After several months of being the PCA, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld hasn't seen much more work as of late. The article looks good, so can we pick a new PCA? --MZMcBride 19:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I've closed it.--Kchase T 12:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leser v. Garnett

I got annoyed at the reference in the Nineteenth Amendment article about a Supreme Court case without the case name, so I found out it was Leser v. Garnett and added a page for it. I'd appreciate it if someone could take a look at it and make sure it's okay. I didn't know what to put for some of the infobox bits (like citations) so I left them blank. - Flooey 21:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Floyd Abrams and the Pentagon Papers case

Several articles that focus on the involvement of Abrams in several cases (SCOTUS and otherwise) have been nominated for deletion under the above link. Postdlf 04:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advice on how to handle articles?

I'm at a crossroads with what once was "Floyd Abrams and the Pentagon Papers case" but is now History and background of New York Times Co. v. United States. It was always my goal to create an article that delved more into the background of the Supreme Court cases themselves, from arguments to procedural posture to some of the dialogue that occurs between the judges and lawyers. I didn't think this suited the main Supreme Court cases, which concentrate on the opinions and holdings. I'm at a point with this article where I am going to start to Lexis-Nexis it and compare it with news stories, etc. What I do not' want to do is repeat work that is already done, namely the current main article New York Times Co. v. United States article. I don't want competing articles, but complimentary ones. So, I'm a little stuck. Do I now lead the reader to the main article? Do I go into some of the posturing that went on in the Supreme Court case? Do I write a brief paragraph and do a {{ goto ]]? I'm not really sure what to do now that I have finished the base of the article (before checking/revising it with newspaper accounts) up to the filing of the writ of certiorari. I could use some advice/suggestions. Dave --DavidShankBone 16:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erie doctrine cases

Apparently, someone has taken the liberty of writing articles on three of the more important Erie doctrine cases: Guaranty Trust Co. v. York, Byrd v. Blue Ridge Rural Electric Cooperative, Inc., and Hanna v. Plumer. The articles are accurate in their description of the cases but could use some formatting.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eastlaw (talk • contribs) .

I fixed up Hanna somewhat. Postdlf 17:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I cleaned up Guaranty and Byrd. Also as a reminder: voting is open for the next PCA. --MZMcBride 19:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll have a look at what could be the next PCA. Also, sorry for forgetting to sign my comment. --Eastlaw 06:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have checked the talk page before listing a new PCA. Feel free to revert me, or we can just use one of these for next time.--Kchase T 15:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Schlesinger v. Councilman

OK, I know it's a bit late to choose a PCA, but the article for Schlesinger v. Councilman could really use some work. It really needs to be expanded. --Eastlaw 06:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamdan GA nomination

I put Hamdan v. Rumsfeld up for GA nomination. The reviewer wanted more citations in a few of the justices' opinion sections (see comments on the talk page). Any help with cites would be greatly appreciated. --MZMcBride 23:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links to texts

Should we try to create a redirect page for case text and laws like they have for books [1] and maps [2] so that people are not required to go to one site for Supreme Court cases and other laws? Remember 20:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand what you're suggesting, I'm just not sure there are enough websites to warrant a special page. FindLaw contains quite a large number of cases, but not all. LexisOne contains every case, but it isn't linkable. Justia is becoming better, but currently is not very good at all. Certain high-profile cases have multiple websites devoted to them, but databases that have all of the cases and are free are very, very limited. I wish there were more free databases that contained all the cases and were linkable, but it just isn't so. Thanks. --MZMcBride 03:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 19:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beacon Theaters v. Westover

Somebody began writing an article for Beacon Theaters v. Westover, but it barely contains any information, just a quote from Cornell LII. I'm personally not all that familiar with this case...that is, I have heard of it, but I haven't read it and don't know much about the reasoning involved. I have been very busy with real life concerns, so if any of you can work on it, please do. --Eastlaw 06:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I made a few minor edits, including a page move. --MZMcBride 22:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Puerto Rico v. Branstad

I recently finished the article on this obscure but important case. I would like someone from the project to peer-review it.<<Coburn_Pharr>> 03:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment in CFD

Peripherally related to this project, but I thought this CFD could benefit from more contributors versed in the state/federal court systems. The proposal is simply to add "state court" to all the state court judge categories, to clarify their purpose (e.g., "Alabama judges" --> "Alabama state court judges"). Many of the comments so far have just left me confused. Postdlf 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Congrats to all the hardworking members of this project and all the many other contributors to Supreme Court of the United States, today's Featured Article! It's great to see it on the main page.--Kchase T 10:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lawrence v. Texas review

Just to let everyone know while I'm on a prolonged break from doing these articles, Lawrence v. Texas has been listed at featured article review. If anyone wants to keep it an FA, take part. Daniel Case 05:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Lawrence v. Texas is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 19:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Speedy deletion criterion for unsourced articles

This proposed policy change would permit the speedy deletion of articles that are "unsourced" for 14 days after being tagged as such, which I think has implications for our articles in particular. 1) If "sourced" only means "reliable sources," it is often not understood that a primary source is a reliable source for its own content, such that a cite to a court opinion is sufficient for an article on that opinion (presuming the article merely describes and quotes from that opinion's text). 2) If "sourced" only means "secondary" "third-party" sources, then this would bar articles on any opinions for which we cannot find a news article or law review article commenting on it. 3) Court citations are not always recognized by laypeople as providing source information (though this is obviated by the usual practice of external links to the full text). I have not yet commented on the proposed policy's talk page, but these are my concerns as is relevant here. Keep in mind that this would not affect articles that have unsourced statements, only those that are completely devoid of sources. Postdlf 19:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Listing the cases here

I have noticed that many of the U.S. Supreme Court articles have not been listed in their proper section of the List of United States Supreme Court cases. I have taken care of some of this, but I am quite busy right now and I simply do not have time to find all the articles which are absent from the list and write a citation & description for all of them.

Some of the cases which need to be put on the list are (and this is by no means a complete list):

Many of the above listed cases need to be categorized and expanded as well.

I also noticed that a couple of articles were about cases where certiorari was denied:

I'm not really sure what to do with these.

I thank you all in advance for your assistance and advice. --Eastlaw 01:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

The ones where cert. was denied were never Supreme Court cases because the Court never accepted review; the articles should be framed so that the subject is the U.S. Court of Appeals opinion (or the lawsuit generally), with the cert. denial noted as a subsequent (or final) development. Postdlf 01:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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