Talk:Warlock
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- An alien with the ability to alter his body to become different objects, he also finds sustenance by absorbing the energy from any organic materials, leaving a lifeless husk in its wake.
Presumably this is in reference to a film, TV, or video game character, as that is most certainly not what is meant when one refers to a 'warlock' without any other context. In that case, it is imperative to make clear that you are talking about a fictional character, explain which fictional universe it comes from, and use a different page name (this, in my view, is one of the few places where subpages make sense). --Robert Merkel
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[edit] warlock
- Among most traditions of neo-pagans, a warlock is a punishment ceremony, not a person. In the ceremony a persons access to magickal power is "locked" and he or she has no ability to perform effective magickal spells, or have access to the energies at all. This is one of the most severe punishments that can be meted out among the neo-pagan community, and access to the ceremony itself is restricted to only the most advanced practitioners. To call someone a warlock is considered a major insult among neo-pagans.
I've been a neopagan since childhood, and I've never heard of this. Source? Or is it someone's fantasy?
Most certainly someones fantasy.Remember that wicca is a new religion founded with purposes similar to those of Scientology and The Church of Satan. Some (former) members of OTO seemed very fond of making their own religions to get as much money as they could. And they created whole new industries. What I'm trying to say is that all of wicca is someones fantasy.168.243.218.6 05:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] changes
I cut out what I could identify as purely and entirely wrong, esp. some speculation about Anglo-Saxon apostacy making dubious reference to the chronicles.
In the case of the soi dissant "Warlock rite," I've tried to make it plain that at least one Neo-pagan believes in this, but also that this doesn't mean that most or even many have ever heard of itn (I certainly haven't, and as I was trained, it's about as possible to "lock" someone's access to the "energies" of magic as it is to lock someone's ability to think).
- The idea of a "warlocking" seems to be based purely on bad etymology. The linked page explains why and explains what sounds to be a much more plausible origin for the term.
[edit] Good, neutral, bad, male and female
The current version of the first paragraph is somewhat confusing in this regard. It almost seems to imply that in Wicca Male equates with good and Female with Neutral, which I am fairly sure is neither true nor the intended message. I do not want to reword it because I really do not know enough about the subject matter, though. Luis Dantas 12:11, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Could someone please tell wiccans
That what their religion says isn't true to all of witchcraft.
[edit] Warlock in popular culture?
Alot of people don't care about this; to them warlock means a term for a powerful sorcerer.
Or a real cool one.
-Izaak
[edit] Respect
I find it disrespectful to say that certain Religions simply stem out of somones fantasy (Wicca). As all other Religions its based on something prior to it.
Ive been a member of the O.T.O. since 96 and have never heard of members founding their own Reöligions to earn money (Hubbard being the exeption).
The most noted FORMER members who founded Religions are Hubbard and Rudolph Steiner and Steiner doesent seem to have made a buck from Antropsophy.
As far as Warlock goes the only real scholary etymology i have found is what is on the page (Vardalokkur or Vaer Loega).
[edit] stray footnote
Somebody manually created this footnote, but I see no indication of where it is supposed to apply. Moving it here so perhaps somebody can fix it... Frater Xyzzy 21:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- 1: Pavlac, Brian A. "10 Common Errors and Myths about the Witch Hunts, Corrected and Commented," Prof. Pavlac's Women's History Resource Site. (October 31, 2001) [1] (October 8, 2003).
