Talk:UK National Government

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[edit] Incoherence

There's an incoherence in the paragraph about the Caretaker Government, where it is said that the government comprised Conservatives, Liberal Nationals and non-partisan figures, something rejected a little after where it is said that no Liberal Nationals take part to the government, What's the truth? I hope that somebody who knows better than me British political history would correct this problem... Checco 16:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I think someone's confusing the Cabinet with the Government as a whole. None of the prominent Liberal Nationals such as Ernest Brown and Lord Simon were included in the Cabinet but had posts outside. However it appears Lord Rosebery (Secretary of State for Scotland) was a Liberal National so there was possibly one in the Cabinet. Timrollpickering 19:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I would be glad if you explain me what's the difference between Cabinet and Government in the United Kingdom, indeed in Italy they're exactly the same thing. Another thing: from 1945 to 1968 (year of the final dissolution of the Liberal Nationals in the Conservative Party, right?), were there any Liberal National (aka National Liberals) members in the Governments led by Churchill (1951-55), Eden (1955-57), MacMillan (1957-63) and Douglas-Home (1963-64)? If yes, who were them? Checco 07:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The Government is the administration as a whole, encorporating all ministers, both senior and junior. The Cabinet is the supreme Government committee, comprised of the most senior ministers and taking decisions (you wouldn't try to run government by calling together over 100 ministers to discuss and decide detailed issues).

As for membership of later Conservative governments, it's not easily clear. Gwilym Lloyd George contested elections as a "Liberal and Conservative" but didn't really have roots in the Liberal Nationals. Looking at the lists I can't spot many others but this isn't so surprising - Churchill was both an unorthodox party figure and also had disliked the National Government heavily (not least because it became a means to exclude figures like him) and opted to draw in a mixture of equally non-loyal Conservatives (e.g. Woolton who had only joined after the 1945 defeat or Cherwell, a Churchill crony) and non-party men such as Ismay and Alexander. By the time Eden became Prime Minister a new generation of Conservatives was coming through the ranks whilst the National Liberals were increasingly just a label used by a handful of politicians with careers stretching back to the Liberal Party rather than as an alternative party for those entering politics. Timrollpickering 09:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Checco 12:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)