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[edit] WP:RM

Move to UH-60 Black Hawk?

  • They're two completely different helicopters. No.

64.229.255.89 00:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

  • OBJECT, I think the naming convention is manufacturer-model-name for these things... 132.205.45.148 18:33, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. violet/riga (t) 18:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Note that there is a late proposed move, and one "Discuss" link goes here while the "Discuss" link from the other page goes to Talk:Sikorsky S-70. Gene Nygaard 21:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Strong Oppose There is a separate page for each major variant of the S-70 (Blackhawk, Pavehawk, Seahawk, Jayhawk and others). --rogerd 00:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • AGREE There may be separate pages for each variant, but they are all still VARIANTS of the Sikorsky S-70 frame. Each of the variant should be a major article in the S-70 page. Rarelibra 1:06 7 FEB 2006 (UTC)
OPPOSE This isn't a "same aircraft" issue. These aren't the "same" aircraft, they are "related" and they are "similar" and they are manufactured from a common design, but neither the UH-60 or the SH-60 are designated the S-70A/B/C or anything, because the Navy has different requirements for the SH-60 than the Army does for the UH-60. I can understand aircraft that are treatised together on the same page, where variants were created just for increased range, more power, more speed, and/or more capacity, but the variation between the Army's and Navy's requirements for aircraft justify a separate treatment. The S-70, a civilian nomenclature for Sikorsky's product, should strictly refer to aircraft that carry that designation. The S-70 references should be removed from this article. And this is not without precedent. Consider the C-47 Skytrain and the DC-3, where such widespread operation would cause confusion in a single article. In helicopters, there is the Bell 206 and the OH-58 Kiowa, and now the Bell 407 and the ARH-70 as well. The George Orwellian argument of "same, but different" doesn't bear out here anymore than it does sociologically. Lastly, this is an encyclopedia; people should be able to find the information they want without wading through a bunch of information that they don't want, no matter how interesting. (Born2flie 00:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC))
I have moved the page from UH-60 Black Hawk to Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk, in accordance with the manufacturer-model-name naming convention. I did this inadvertantly, as I am a new user, and have never done a move-page before. I thought I was APPLYING to move the page, and did not expect it to actually be moved at that time. I apologize for not having discussed this move beforehand, as I thought that was what I was doing. I prefer keeping the article at Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk, yet will understand if there is a concensus to move it back to just UH-60 Black Hawk. Thanks.
--BillCJ 18:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia's naming conventions on aircraft should be adhered to in this case. For more information, visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft). I have moved all redirect pages to point to UH-60 Black Hawk.--DeAceShooter 16:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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