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Template talk:Infobox Broadcast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Template talk:Infobox Broadcast

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[edit] Documentation

[edit] Purpose

{{Infobox Broadcast}} — An infobox about a television station

[edit] Required fields

{{Infobox_Broadcast |
  call_letters             = |
  station_logo             = |
  analog                   = |
  digital                  = |
  affiliations             = |
  founded                  = |
  location                 = |
  owner                    = |
  homepage                 = |
}}

[edit] Optional fields

  station_slogan           = |
  station_branding         = |
  callsign_meaning         = |
  former_callsigns         = |
  former_affiliations      = |
  effective_radiated_power = |

[edit] Empty syntax

{{Infobox_Broadcast |
  call_letters             = |
  station_logo             = |
  station_slogan           = |
  station_branding         = |
  analog                   = |
  digital                  = |
  affiliations             = |
  founded                  = |
  location                 = |
  callsign_meaning         = |
  owner                    = |
  former_callsigns         = |
  former_affiliations      = |
  effective_radiated_power = |
  homepage                 = |
}}

[edit] Example

The following is an example of how the Infobox Broadcast template is used (using WCVB-TV as an example):

{{Infobox_Broadcast |
  call_letters             = WCVB-TV |
  station_logo             = [[Image:WCVBlogo.png|150px|WCVB-TV 5]] |
  station_slogan           = Local Live Coverage<br>You Can Count On |
  station_branding         = ''WCVB-TV 5''/''Newscenter 5'' |
  analog                   = 5 ([[VHF]]) |
  digital                  = 20 ([[UHF]]) |
  affiliations             = [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] (1957-61 and since 1972) |
  founded                  = [[1957]] ''(as WHDH-TV)'', <br>[[1972]] ''(as WCVB)''|
  location                 = [[Boston, Massachusetts]] |
  callsign_meaning         = '''W'''<br />'''C'''hannel '''V'''(5) '''B'''oston |
  owner                    = [[Hearst-Argyle|Hearst-Argyle Television]] |
  former_callsigns         = WHDH-TV (1957-72) <br /> ''(licensed separately from WCVB)''|
  former_affiliations      = [[CBS]] (1961-72) <br /> ''(on WHDH-TV)''|
  effective_radiated_power = 61.7 [[Kilowatt|kW]]/353 [[metre|m]](analog)<br />625 kW/390 m (digital) |
  homepage                 = [http://www.thebostonchannel.com/ www.thebostonchannel.com] |
}}

Contents


[edit] Branding

I hope you don't mind, but I added an entry for station branding. In my opinion, stations are more likely to change the slogan more often than the on-air branding. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pentawing (talkcontribs) 19 January 2006.

[edit] ERP

I have added a line for effective radiated power to this template. --KelisFan2K5 02:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Anyone who includes that should probably also include the transmitter height and possibly the station class (height can be just as or more important than ERP in many cases). —Mulad (talk) 02:55, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
Height as in above average terrain or ground level? I might also add that information on transmitter location be included as well. Pentawing 03:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Is this really something that should be in the infobox? I tend to think not -- it's not really core information (like channel numbers, affiliations, etc.) -- and because it's something that most people will go.. "huh?" to. I think that it should be in the individual articles where it can be better explained -- not in the infobox. Plus, someone very dedicated would have to cull the information for the 100+ stations already using this box. Thoughts? Boisemedia 03:57, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
I should say that I am for adding transmitter location however -- that's a little bit more main-stream information. Boisemedia 03:58, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
In that case, change ERP with transmitter location and move that entry next to the channel numbers. If everyone is for that, I will be willing to do so. Pentawing 00:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think that this infobox is MUCH too large, so I think the following fields should be delted from the infobox: Slogan, Call letters meaning, Former callsigns, Former affiliations, Effective radiated power. (I'm not saying this info is useless; I'm just saying it it is not something that should be included in an infobox.) Infoboxes are for general info, not specific info, if you want to put specific info, it would be a better idea to put it in the article itself. You can't stuff all the article's info in to the infobox. Also, if we were to delete these fields, it would not be as hard as adding fields. TorontoStorm 02:52, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ERP (2)

I've again removed ERP, per the discussion above. This template is on nearly 600 articles, and adding this insignificant piece of data to each one would be a long process with very little benefit. Boisemedia 03:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ERP should return in my opinion

i thought that the ERP was well-needed. most of the stations have the ERP information anyway. What's the worst that happens if a station doesn't have a stated ERP? it simply is blank? that's ok. As for the class, i could go through the TV stations, and put their class on (LP, CA, TV, DT).

should i put the ERP information back on? i dont' want to start an edit war or anything...

Raccoon Fox 14:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

You asked "what's the worst that happens if a station doesn't have a stated ERP". For many articles, it's not simply blank. I refer you to WTVG. Yeah, we could add the ERP tag back to the infobox in those articles, and (if no one reverts this infobox again) you're welcome to do so. However, there are simply too many articles that don't have the ERP tag, and it'll take a long time to track down and update all of them.
To be honest, since you're the one who added the ERP section, I feel you should be the one responsible for bringing all the articles up to standard, should this version of the infobox stays. And I won't help with it, as frankly I just don't have that much time. Happy editing. - Hinto 17:14, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Sorry folks, I've been out of touch for a while -- but I strongly disagree with the inclusion of ERP. One, it isn't currently on the 763 stories that use this template. Two, why are we including ERP over such things as "station founder," "transmitter location," or something similarly arcane (but relevant) like "date of next FCC renewal." Three, why is it in the template when the data is included in VERY few of the articles themselves? I'm not saying the information is irrelevant -- but I do not believe it rises to the level of inclusion in the infobox. Boisemedia 04:35, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ERP (3)

that's fine with me, since i never asked you to begin with. no need to get upset over it, anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raccoon Fox (talkcontribs) 20 November 2005.

Actually, the point I raised doesn't matter now, thanks to the solution provided by Boothy443. - Hinto 16:14, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ERP of Analog or Digital?

If there is to be an ERP included on this infobox, would it be for the Analog or the Digital transmition of a TV station if they have both? A 09:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

it would go for both. it would show Analogue power on top, with digital on the right after it.
Example:
COON-TV Television of the Raccoon Fox!:
Effective Radiated Power:
100 kW/100 m(Analog)
973 kW/100 m (Digital)
Raccoon Fox 03:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
If you are going to go as far as to include one, why not include a section each for both analog and digital? A 08:00, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Analog signal/digital signal

Are totally the wrong articles to link to - completely out-of-context. Analog television and digital terrestrial television are the suitable target articles, which I'm going to change the template to using. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kiand (talkcontribs) 4 January 2006.

[edit] Power

Recently user:Radiojon changed the link text from Effective radiated power to Power. I think that this is too vauge of a term to use, so I have changed the text to Transmitter Power. I still like Effective radiated power the best, but I think that Transmitter Power is a good compromise. —A 08:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree that Transmitter Power is a good compromise TorontoStorm 23:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Class"?

This infobox has a hidden reference to Class; unfortunately, however, that title is a disambiguation page, and none of the articles linked from that page is particularly relevant to the classification of broadcast stations. (A) Is this link really needed, since it is hidden? (B) If it is needed, could someone contribute a short article about how broadcast stations are classified, so that the infobox could link to that article instead of to the disambig page? Thanks. --Russ Blau (talk) 16:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. I found List of broadcast station classes, which suits the bill just fine. --Russ Blau (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About analog vs. digital...

What am I supposed to do if the station doesn't have a digital signal, to the best of my knowledge? Morgan Wick 04:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

This is one situation that having the single field for 'Channels' creates. What most stations currently have listed is '(none)', or they are blank. Does anyone have a suggestion for better wording? —A 05:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] What about cable stations?

Do we use this template for cable stations such as CP24 in Toronto, Ontario? If we do, how can we put a callsign. On the Infobox Network article talk page, it says this tempalte should be used for TV stations.

TorontoStorm 02:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

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