Talk:Incarceration

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This should not be a redirect to prison; one can be incarcerated in many other places than a prison.

DryGrain 17:47, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 This article is a mess 1.1 Incarceration 2 Definition Removed? 3 Worldwide View 4 Total number incarcerated in the USA. World incarceration rates.

[edit] This article is a mess

Wow! This article is a real mess. A good encyclopedia article (or any survey article in any context, for that matter) should start with a basic definition of the subject before plunging into an in-depth discussion. Keep in mind that not all Wikipedia users are mature well-educated adults who already know that incarceration means imprisonment. --Coolcaesar 01:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Let's delete it! David Cruise 08:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incarceration

• Delete Wow! This article is a real mess. A good encyclopedia article (or any survey article in any context, for that matter) should start with a basic definition of the subject before plunging into an in-depth discussion. David Cruise 10:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. "Article needs cleanup" is not a reason to delete, it's a reason to, you know, clean it up. —Cryptic (talk) 18:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 18:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The article is a mess? So fix it. Monicasdude 19:13, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep — Invalid AfD criteria. Topic is highly notable — RJH 19:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep {{sofixit}}. — Adrian Lamo ·· 20:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as cryptic says "Article needs cleanup" is not a reason to delete, it's a reason to, you know, clean it up. There's much useful information in the article and it even has citations. You need a new job. pat8722 22:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep speedy if possible. kotepho 00:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Capitalistroadster 02:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup --Khoikhoi 08:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

This article was nominated for deletion on 12 March 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Punkmorten 10:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition Removed?

Will somebody please tell me why my addition of a definition of incarceration (direct from Latin) was removed, and the page reverted? Aeh4543 17:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, because I reverted to Wikipedia style. The first word of the article should (generally) be the same word/words as the heading. Secondly, as this article is called Incarceration the object is to explain Incarceration, and definitely not to start with an explanation of where the "The term incarcerate" comes from, as you did. Note our Main Page article today, "Cryptography". We say what it is, not where the name comes from. Cheers. Moriori 23:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! :-)Aeh4543 14:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worldwide View

Can the person who placed the warning sign comment on what they would like to see improved on this page? I think this page has a great potential to be very informative and interesting, but needs a greater discussion and direction to what is missing and what needs to be fixed and edited. Thanks! Leah 22:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The tag was inserted by User:205.118.16.153 who didn't explain his reasons for it. You can contact him on his talk page here. Moriori 01:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Total number incarcerated in the USA. World incarceration rates.

--Timeshifter 22:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC). Concerning this graph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Incarceration.jpg - The total number of inmates in the USA is much higher than is currently indicated by the graph (1,500,000 in 2005) linked above. See the correct total in this image:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USA._Prisoners_1995_to_2005.gif

The total number incarcerated in the USA is actually a little less than 2.3 million inmates in 2005.

I like the graph, though. Could someone redo it with the accurate number of US inmates as indicated in the graphs, tables, and links here:

• http://gallery.marihemp.com/charts
• http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/ratesusa.htm
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USA._Prisoners_1995_to_2005.gif

World incarceration rates are here:

• http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/world.htm

I would like to learn how to create graphs. Could people who create such graphs leave short descriptions on the talk pages for some of their graph and chart images? Please put some of the wikipedia graph image URLs here, too, so that I can get to the talk pages for the images. I know how to create images from selections of pdf files. I also know how to use Irfanview image editing freeware. But I don't know how to create line graph images, or bar graph images. Thanks for directing me to any help or FAQs.

I am working on charts of world incarceration rates in my sandbox here:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timeshifter/Sandbox

Feel free to use my sandbox ideas, links, etc..

Back to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Incarceration.jpg - I edited the line graph image syntax here so that it now shows up as a clickable thumb image at 450 pixels. When the image is clicked one sees the full size image.

The smaller image size here allows text to flow around the image for monitors set at any resolution down to 1024 by 768 pixels. That is a common resolution for 17 inch monitors and some 15 inch monitors.

If someone updates that line graph they can upload the new version in the "file history" section of the image page. The new updated image will show up here without having to make any changes here.

--Timeshifter 00:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC). I have deleted the old inaccurate graph. Here is the code that was used for it:

[[Image:Incarceration.jpg|thumb|right|480px|Fig. 2. International incarceration rates per 100,000 population in 2004 (inset), and Growth of incarceration in the United States between 1925 and 2004.]]

I substituted an accurate chart for world incarceration rates.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Incarceration_rates_worldwide.gif