User talk:IFaqeer

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On Wikivacation. (Hoping I can stay there.) I will be checking this page—as rarely as I can help it :D. You can help me resist Wikitemptation by helping with Africa-related, Islam-related, and South Asia-related topics. Feel free to send me e-mail. Come on over to http://iFaqeer.blogspot.com http://iFaqeer.wikispaces.com to see what I am up to in the mean time.

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[edit] Archives

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[edit] Languages

Hello, even though you're on wikivacation, would you mind putting up which langauges you speak? I have a feeling I might want to drag you off to some wikiprojects when you get back from vacation. :-P

For examples of languages, see User:Kim Bruning or bottom of User:PZFUN maybe :-) There's templates for it! Kim Bruning 10:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

WOW! That could prove VERY useful. When you get back from wikivacation of course. ;-) Kim Bruning 12:39, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Urdu blogs and all that ...

Good news re the Urdu blog blossoming! Just be sure to keep in touch with the folks at Distributed Proofreaders Europe <http://dp.rastko.net/default.php>. I don't make it by there all that often, but they do have a team turning public domain texts in Urdu into e-books. If you put their output into an Urdu Wikibooks section, you'd have the beginnings of an easily accessible Urdu free library.

Is there any way to automagically convert Urdu in Arabic script into Urdu in Devanagari? It would be cool if people could just click a button to put everything into their preferred script. Zora 19:05, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I just started an article called Historiography of early Islam. It's just an outline right now. It's needed, but I'm going to have to give myself an M.A. or Ph.D.-equivalent course of study to complete it. Would appreciate your thoughts. Zora 06:08, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion at Talk:Pakistan

Would you like to join the animated discussion on the Pakistan's talk page? The current issue is whether "Pakistan is famous for its support of Taliban and 9/11 terrorist" is a suitable sentence to start the article's first paragraph or not. Your contribution would be much appreciated, as the current discussion seems to be more of a dialog between User:Ragib and SamTr014 (talk • contribs). Thanks !--Sheikhu 05:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] OmerFa

Would you message User:OmerFa. He keeps making anti-India edits and makes personal attacks against User:Ragib. He would perhaps listen to you. Thanks, =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:46, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Now he is making anti-Pakistan edits in the Kashmir article by saying that "gujarath maratyrs" need mention. He is inserting highly anti-Pakistani pro-Indian POV. Like I have said before to many users, he is most likely a sockpuppet, or an Indian editor posing as a Pakistani. I just wanted to make you aware. --Anonymous editor 02:50, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Benazir Bhutto

R you interested in to join the discussion of cleaning up the article of Benazir Bhutto? Talk:Benazir Bhutto--Raju1 03:08, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kausar revisited

Hi!

If you remember our previous conversation on the subject (at Talk:Sarabseth), I had said I would try to find the references that had convinced me Saqi-e-Kausar referred to Ali.

Here are two: 1) One of Nusrat's qawwalis has the line: "Ali nu baksheya Khaliq ne Kausar". I'm pretty sure this is from "Ali Maula Ali Maula Ali Dam Dam", T-Series vol. 31.

1) Another of Nusrat's qawwalis has the lines: "Har gham ki tadbeer Ali hai Kausar ki tafseer Ali hai" (I forgot to note which song/album this is from. It could well be the same song listed above.)

Tafseer means explanation or elucidation, right?

Could you possibly explain the meaning of these lines?

Thanks! Sarabseth 00:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Military of Pakistan

Would you be interested in discussions on this (Talk:Military of Pakistan) particular page?--PrinceA 00:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorism in Kashmir

User:Nichalp and User:Anonymous editor suggested me to review the article on Terrorism in Kashmir from a Pakistani. So, here I am. Please if possible, go through the article and suggest necessary changes so as to help make it more neutral. Once the task is completed, I will put it up for a featured status. Thanks --IncMan June 30, 2005 05:45 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, IFaqeer. Yes, the article has become more objective in recent days, but I'm afraid it is still being plagued with non-neutral information. Since, there are no regular Pakistani editors at that article (for some reason), I thought the article could use some. I am glad to see that you are eager to help and I will keep you updated for any issues that need to be resolved later. Thanks. --Anonymous editor June 30, 2005 17:36 (UTC)

I really did not have any part to play in the edits of the article. I just asked IncMan to get all views into the picture. Credit should be given to the editors of the article, not me. =Nichalp «Talk»= June 30, 2005 17:39 (UTC)

Thanks for going through the article.

• The article does at some places mix-up terrorism and militancy. I will try to sort that out. I agree with the notion that all militancy is not of terroristic nature. But I'm afraid to say that there are only a handfull of militants who don't use terrorism as a mean to achieve their goals.
• Think if the article is renamed as Militancy in Kashmir, it would confuse a neutral reader as the article contains information regarding the terrorism (refering to sections like "Major terrorist activities" and "Waging Jihad") and not militancy.
• I wanted to mention Zial Haq's role but didn't do so as some would have objected to it.

Regards --IncMan July 1, 2005 06:30 (UTC)

[edit] "Fifth Right Guided Caliph" ref in Aurangzeb article

hi ifaqeer. I've been reworking the Aurangzeb article fairly hard. I have not been able to find any references to Aurangzeb being called the Fifth Right-guided Caliph other than your own, at least not via a web search. In fact a google search shows mostly a propogation of this sentence in sites that copy wiki articles in whole cloth. This claim, it seems to me, would have some associated independent docs. Lacking these, I've taken the step of removing the reference -- but I will gladly rv it, particularly if you can provide some help in verifying? thanks --Nemonoman 7 July 2005 01:33 (UTC)

Reply and discussion at Talk:Aurangzeb.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) July 7, 2005 19:35 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

A page that you joined to help with associate with other members of the Wikipedia community is on VfD. Please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikipedian citizens of the world, and the related page Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikipedian supporters of the sovereign nation-state. Cognition 09:37, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic/Devanagari scripts in Bollywood articles

Dear IFaqeer, you may need to come back for this one. Some editors want to put either Arabic or Devanagari script, or both, next to actors' names, to indicate the correct pronunciation. I'd prefer NEITHER or BOTH. But then ... use of Arabic script in Bollywood seems to be dropping, and just Devanagari might be the current practice there. I feel like I'm walking through a minefield. Please help us achieve a peaceful consensus on this. Zora 20:45, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category ??

There are two categories namely , category:Islamic mysticism & Category:Sufism for the same thing . Shouldnt they be merged or redirected ? Farhansher 18:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Islam poll

[1] Your presence will be helpful .Farhansher 22:00, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Curiousity: Musharraf

What do you think of Pervez Musharraf and his affects on Pakistan? gren グレン 05:19, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hausa Wikipedia

Hi IFaqeer,

I was wondering, have you ever considered doing some work for the Hausa Wikipedia?

It's in a pretty severe state of disrepair right now and could use some help. The best thing anyone could probably do for it would be to get sysop status there, and translate the user interface. Maybe create a few articles, too...

See the Hausa Wikipedia.

Also, I was wondering if you could give me the translation for the logo? The text is "Wikipedia -- the free encyclopedia". In this case, "free" means as in free software, not as in "free beer".

Cheers Node

[edit] Urdu Templates

Salam! The moved links look good - don't know what I was thinking. And the reason for using Naskh instead of the Nastaliq was because Nastaliq doesn't exactly flow well on one line, and looked rather messy for what should be a clean cut template box. However, if you feel Nastaliq should be used for the Urdu text, feel free to change it back! Vpendse 02:12, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] You are wanted!!

YOU ARE WANTED BY URDU AT ur:wikipedia.org WiseSabre 15:40, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bild übersetzt

Hallo iFaqeer, ich hab eine Übersetzung des Bildes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Muslim_Dress_Billboard.jpg auftreiben können. Tschüss, --Abdull 23:03, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Help with identifying Arabic text in HK image

Hello, could you help to identify the arabic scripts seen on the photo [2]? I want to know if they are Urdu. Thanks a lot! --K.C. Tang 18:27, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Since you're on vacation and all, I took the liberty of answering this one. I'm not sure about one of the two phrases on the sign, though. Please feel free to take a look, whenever you get a chance. --skoosh (háblame) 01:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

because Skoosh thinks that "someone might complain if you tried to pass off "chicken" and "shop" as Urdu words." Indeed I don't understand the usage: it is that the Eng words "chicken" and "shop" have been absorbed into Urdu? (i.e. like the words "fast food" that have been absorbed into French) Or is it that the chicken stall's owner just use the Eng words because he likes that, not because most ppl use the Eng form? Could u explain more about this? I am really curious to know... thanks a lot :P --K.C. Tang 13:16, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I think I've got it, thanks a lot :P --K.C. Tang 09:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba

When you get some time can you please look at Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba and related articles about the Jamiats. There is a dispute between anonymous users. --AI 07:53, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Kashmir earthquake

[edit] User Categorisation

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Nigeria page as living in or being associated with Nigeria. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Nigeria for instructions.--Rmky87 23:16, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi IFaqeer. I would be delighted if you would vote here at my rfa. It's a pretty tight race at the moment ;). Thank you. :) --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 00:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reference desk question

Hi, there was a question on the reference desk about a coin that may be in Urdu. I saw that you are an Urdu speaker and wondered if you might be able to confirm it is in Urdu and perhaps have more information on the coin. Thanks - Taxman ^Talk 15:15, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak and best wishes from my side . F.a.y.^{تبادله خيال /c} 19:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Category:Wikipedians in Nigeria

I seem to recall that one of the new categories (I think it was one of the Canadian ones) had the information from the old list copy-pasted into it. This was for people who did more than just add their names to the list. You could do something similar for whatever category.

Thank you for not acting like it's the end of the world if Wikipedia decides to go with something that actually sorts itself and where it's harder to categorize someone without his or her knowledge (I've had at least one person tell me that he or she had no idea that he or she'd been listed on "Wikipedians/X."--Rmky87 21:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedians in X

I agree with you - I hate the new system. I am tempted to CFD the whole system, or bring it up at the Village pump or something. I eventually gave in and cat'd myself, but I'm in Oklahoma - I really feel dishonest to include myself in "Wikipedians in Trinidad and Tobago", and I feel unfairly excluded from the system (either I lie and say I am in TT, or I have to leave myself off the list). Guettarda 21:35, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

It would probably take more than just a CfD - people would take that as just making a point. It's good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way - I suppose the next step is to figure out who else cares. Guettarda 14:32, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Muniruddin Ahmed

Is he notable? See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muniruddin Ahmed. utcursch | talk 08:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I am pasting the content you were after here - take what you want and delete again! See here :) Brookie: A collector of little round things 08:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World Citizen userbox, {{User:1ne/Userboxes/User world}}

Hi, I noticed the message saying you're a World Citizen, I would like to invite you to add {{User:1ne/Userboxes/User world}} to your user page if you wish to proclaim it in a more effective way, and this template will also add you automatically to the Wikipedians with World Citizenship category. :) --Mistress Selina Kyle 23:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wishes

I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. --Bhadani 14:52, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User categories reply

I've responded to your question from a few months ago on Category talk:Wikipedians by location, in case you're interested. -Silence 11:29, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transportation in NYC

Hello IFaqeer - I notice you're a member of WikiProject New York City. Have a look at the Transportation in New York City sub article. It tells a fascinating story and it's been nominated to be a US Collaboration of the Week after lots of work over the last few weeks. Check it out and if you like it, please vote for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:USCOTW We need all the votes we can get! Wv235 04:17, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Greetings on India’s 57th Republic Day. --Bhadani 08:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adab

Adab from an Indian wikipedian. We are talking after long... --Bhadani 09:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the link - http://urdukenaam.blogspot.com in a while (tonight or tomorrow), by the way. (I think we were discussing Qawwali a while back, no?) - Yes, we had discussed, and I like Qawwali. Sure. --Bhadani 13:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that it needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 20:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi.

hi! I'm bored. That's cool that you know weird languages. anyways...bye. Mitternacht90. --e. 01:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

I appreciate your eforts as part of wiki community. I stumbled on to your user page through one of the article's talk pages. I wonder if you are still an active user and I would like to share a few ideas with you in the future. Omerlives 21:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Mitternacht90. --e. 01:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DailyKos and Wikia

I saw your note on DailyKos. Wikia is a great place for you to start your wiki project, as we're free. We also recently launched a political change project sponsored by Jimmy Wales, that you may find interesting at Campaigns

Gil

[edit] Help with translation

I'm currently working on a script intended to create short articles on political parties on a variety of wikipedias simultaneously. However, in order for the technique to work I need help with translations to various languages. If you know any of the languages listed at User:Soman/Lang-Help, then please help by filling in the blanks. For example I need help with Urdu. Thanks, --Soman 15:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hindi-Urdu grammar

Assalamalaikum bhai saheb. The Hindi-Urdu grammar and Hindustani grammar articles have coexisted for a while now but we have all realized that the Hindustani grammar article is a recent duplicate with the only differece being dual scripted and not as up to date. However, due to a recent discussion (see Talk:Hindustani grammar), the Hindustani grammar article is now officially being merged into the Hindi-Urdu grammar article because the Hindi-Urdu grammar article is more up to date and accurate. As of now, we are adding the Nastaliq script to the article. Devanagari has already been done. After the Nastaliq script has been added, Hindustani grammar will be deleted and Hindi-Urdu grammar will be the main grammar page for Urdu, Hindustani, and Hindi languages. I am requesting you to please help me add the Nastaliq script to the Hindi-Urdu grammar article as this is a gargantuan but rewarding task. I would really appreciate you help. Please let me know if you can help me do this. Bahut Bahut Shukria. Khuda Hafiz. Jdas07 04:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at the article. I and a few others have some knowledge on the subject. The grammars are virtually identical. The only minor difference is that Urdu more strongly preserves the femenine agreement in some postpositions, whereas not as many Hindi speakers do. This is mentioned in the article. As per Talk:Hindustani grammar, many of us came to a consesus and decided that there would be one grammar article for Hindustani, Hindi, and Urdu (in the past, all the articles had their grammar page redirect to Hindi grammar). Taxman, an administrator and knowledgeable individual, is helping to organize the project. I asked a few others to help us on this project as well. Do you think you would still be able to help add Nastaliq to some tables? Khuda Hafiz. Jdas07 01:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Ifaqeer

Please visit [3] page and add your personal email (if you don't mind) at the bottom for better collaboration, networking and comunication. Thanks :) Omerlives

[edit] Info on Islamophobic group

Hello,

What follows are the sentiments, expressed in their own words, and in the 'protest signs', of the obscure, very small, but very vocal 'activist group' known as "Protest Warrior".

"What's becoming clear is how the religion of Islam is addicted to war and mayhem. Not a radical minority, not a rogue sect, but its very essence is about submission and sacrifice and proving your worth by worshipping death in this life to gain a paradise of orgies and drunkenness. Their entire history is of warfare, and any accomplishments of their so-called Golden Age has been proven to be merely parasitic off the cultures they've conquered and reduced to dhimmi servitude. That every country under sharia is corrupt, belligerent, desolate and barbaric obviously gives them no pause, except to constantly drive them into further psychotic rage as they refuse to ever accept any responsibility for their conditions. They are akin to the powers in Orwell's 1984; there must always be an enemy. It's no surprise that women are treated like property in these countries as that's the only way Muslim men can feed their egos, to dominate others rather than ever actually produce something."

Kfir Alfia and Alan Lipton, founders of "Protest Warrior"

Their 'protest signs'...

Signs

I thought you might be interested in this group's sentiments. They are currently very actively editing their own article on Wiki and there is a lot of 'group think'. Perhaps you might want to become involved in the editing and discussion process on that page. If you do, please don't vandalize, and try to remain civil. Should you not want to involve youself, please forgive my intrusion.

Protest Warrior

Protest Warrior Discussion

NBGPWS 08:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fatimid

What is the evidence that Sunnis outside the Fatimid realms widely accepted the Fatimids as legitimate Caliphs?? The Abbasids had lost power during most of the Fatimid period, but they were still given at least nominal acknowledgement by many... AnonMoos 13:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maraba Coffee

Hello! As you're a Wikipedian interested in African topics, I'm writing to notify you that the Maraba Coffee article is now a 'Featured Article Candidate'. Please feel free to evaluate the article and write your support or opposition at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Thanks — SteveRwanda 15:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tipu Sultan

Hi, could you please join to the article as you are a senior member to the article Tipu Sultan and counter argue with some fanatics.thnx Mujeerkhan 23:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Id Mubarak!

I wish you all the best on the occasion of Id Festival. --Bhadani 04:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third holiest site in Islam AfD debate

I've nominated this article for deletion Third_holiest_site_in_Islam, and would appreciate your comments on the matter.--Amerique 05:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I hope your have voted for Keep after reading the AFD debate and the article. If not than please take a closer look at it. thank you. --- ALM 02:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It not the content but topic is wrong. See Striver comments (in reply to your vote and also in his own vote). Read the AFD page completely and then decide please. We need to think if such debate really exists among Muslims?

All sunni recognize Al-Aqsa Mosque as third holiest site and there is no debate among Sunnis (no reference is founded so far). Al-Aqsa Mosque was our first Kaba towards where we continue to offer our Namaz for more than year before Kaba replaced it. It was the place from where Muhammad gone to Miraj. Furthermore, there are many other hadiths in shahi Bukari about [Al-Aqsa Mosque]] status as third holiest site.

Some Shia reference denying Al-Aqsa Mosque third holiest status are founded. However, many Shia are active in wikipedia and they are very knowledgeable for example User:Striver, User:Aminz, User:BhaiSaab etc. They ALL think that it not Shia view and hence does looks like main stream Shia also believe Al-Aqsa Mosque as third holiest.

So they have used references from CNN and BBC to decline all Muslims claim because Al-Aqsa Mosque is located in Israel. One can find same News channel two different reports saying different site holier over other. Hence those claims using Media websites are not reliable to create this controversy article when no controvery exist amoung Muslims. There is no reason to deny all Muslims claim for Al-Aqsa mosque status. Hence please reconsider it. --- ALM 02:54, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

After reading my above post also read the comments of people to your Keep at the AFD page. It is because so far you are the only Muslim voted for Keep. Wassalam --- ALM 00:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Urdu translation

hi,

I'm in a process of creating a uniform system of creating articles on political parties across wikipedias of different languages. I need help with Urdu translations, please contribute at User:Soman/Lang-Help-ur. --Soman 14:10, 26 اکتوبر 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oh how nice to see your username!

Dear IFaqeer, it was so nice to see your username next to an edit. Hope you and family are OK!

I haven't been doing much in the Islam-related articles lately. I got so cranky and exhausted and depressed, trying to mediate between Sunni and Shi'a, or anti-Islamic bigots and pious Muslims trying to squelch anything that they don't like, that I got blocked for 3RR and left WP in disgust for a few months. I'm back, but trying not to care too much. Zora 06:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your help would be appreciated

Hi IFaqeer. Could you please have a look at Marwat? There are 2 contributors who are arguing since a long time about the insertion of a few notable (or not as it may be the case) into the article. Thanks in advance. Szvest ^{Wiki me up ®} 09:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. -- Szvest Ω ^{Wiki Me Up ®} 09:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third holiest site in Islam (expression)

Greetings, I found it funny that you expressed a desire to keep this article. Have you acutally read the article in question? The reasoning you expressed for why the article should be kept is the exact reason many folks are expressing the opinion that it should be deleted (myself included). Are you sure you want the article kept? All that it does is create an otherwise non-existant debate about "the third holiest" site. Thanks. (→Netscott) 02:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Well corresponding to your apparent optimism about rendering the article meaningful relative to Wikipedia's policies I would recommend trying to edit it. All that I see on it is a group of editors with strong Zionist POV trying to use Wikipedia as a soapbox to cast doubt about Al-Aqsa Mosque's status in the Muslim world. (→Netscott) 02:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qawwali

User:Sarabseth has removed your contribution to this article like he has removed many of mine, and that of others. It appears he owns the article and has his own definition of Qawwali and spiritualism. Shall we start a new article "Qawwali (Sufism)" to add to some facts? Hassanfarooqi 21:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)