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[edit] List of Comics
I'm really confused, after reading the list of Dr. Strange Comics on the main page. I am holding in my hand Strange Tales #184 from March 1976. Where does that fit into things? (JNS)
JNS -- Your issue is a reprint issue. Strange Tales #182 - 188 reprinted stories from earlier issues of Strange Tales featuring Doctor Strange. Your particular issue, Strange Tales #184, reprints the Doctor Strange story from Strange Tales #132 and the Doctor Strange story (minus one of the original pages) from Strange Tales #133.75.80.67.22 04:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)(AAO)
A separate issue. According to this list there is a 1992 Doctor Strange Special. I've searched for it but have yet to see anyone else definitively having it. I believe the listing for "Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme Special (1992)" in series and mini-series subsection is the same as the "Doctor Strange & Ghost Rider Special #1 (April 1991; reprints only)" from the one-shots and graphic novels section. If i am mistaken, could someone with more exact knowledge provide more background info on that 1992 Special. I believe it is likely, that based upon its listing here, this 1992 Special has made its way to a few fansites, none of which give any further detail on the issue in question than has been given here. 75.80.67.22 04:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)(AAO)
[edit] Marriage to Clea
Dr. Strange and Clea exchanged mystic rings in a special ceremony once. Clea has since referred to this as a type of marriage (most notably in The Order mini-series). So it is okay to say they are married (even if their idea of marriage is a bit non-traditional). I see no reason to change her status from "Wife" to "Lover" when they consider themselves married (after a fashion).Rabidwolfe 00:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ultimate Doctor Strange and Other Doctor Strange
- In the Ultimate Marvel is the son of this Ultimate Doctor Strange.
- The Marvel 2099.
- In the 1602 miniseries.
--Brown Shoes22 17:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I've never read anything with Ultimate Doctor Strange, but his summation in this entry makes less than no sense.
[edit] Article on Strange: Beginnings and Endings
Strange: Beginnings and Endings Add info or Article would is a good idea ?--Brown Shoes22 03:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 1978 movie
What happened to the 1978 movie?
Which actors were in it, and who directed it?
[edit] Character controversy
I'm completely agree and all, but POV much? Kusonaga 18:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Template, non-NPOV
Elsewhere in the ComicsProject, such subjective lists of stories have been rejected as non-NPOV.
This section says, for example, "Some consider Ditko, Englehart, and Stern the three writers to have mastered Dr. Strange." Aside from there being no citation, it shard to imagine that scripter and co-creator Stan Lee would be left out, for example. What is the criteria for inclusion here? Are these stories award-winners? Did they cause a spike in sales, as per the annual published circulatoin statement of industry-press reportage? Is there citable or linkable concensus? Right now it appears to be a list of one or two editors' personal favorites.
Other non-Wikistyle elements include temporal terms as as "recent"; uncited and contradictory statements ("Some fans consider this one of the best recent Dr. Strange stories. Others consider the plot rather standard"), non-encyclopedic language ("save his mother from Mephisto's clutches in Hell!", etc.)
It also confuses what it's about. A list of significant stories would list the story/arc title and where the story appeared. This is not a list of significant stories, but a list of significant publications, including reprint book-collections.
In any event, this is a problematic section that per Wikistandards needs to be deleted or heavily modified for style and objectivity. — Tenebrae 15:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- Since it's been nearly two weeks without input either way, I'm taking the information under "Significant stories" and blending it within "Character history" in order that any signifiance be placed within a context. I'm culling items for which the "Signif Stories" section gave contradictory (and uncited) statements such as "Some fans consider this one of the best recent Dr. Strange stories. Others consider the plot rather standard". — Tenebrae 15:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Powers and abilities
I've tried to edit for clarity for clarity (notably, it was unclear what the pronouns were referring to). Should it be placed under "Universal sources", or does it apply to the rest of these sections? Also the final sentence in this graf is so unclear, I've commented-it out on the article page (and have put it in ital here simply to indicate which sentence I mean) with my questions following it:
- The canon suggests that virtually every human is capable of learning and harnessing magic — considered simply a form of energy in the Marvel universe — through training; however each person has a different potential. The Ancient One saw in Stephen an incredible potential, quite likely the greatest on Earth. This has been confirmed by various events such as in "Unthinkable" where Doctor Doom had dedicated himself to magic, but was still only a mid-level mage compared to Stephen. QUESTIONS: When and in what comics was "Unthinkable"? Was it a single story or a story arc? What happened that confirmed whatever -- did Doom admit it, or did someone else say it, or what?
-- Tenebrae 14:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- "Unthinkable" was an arc in the Fantastic Four comic, where Doctor Doom makes a pact with some demons to boost his magic skills so he can beat Reed Richards. The Fantastic Four gets their butts kicked, but Dr. Strange manages to help the FF out. Rabidwolfe 22:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks -- Tenebrae 15:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] David Goyer note
In an article for Comics Scene, David Goyer noted that he wrote a screenplay for Doctor Strange in the 1990's. He noted that he wanted to follow the origin storyline-a selfish, acquisitive man gets redeemed when going to Tibet and studying under a mystic. Then The Shadow came out in 1994 which features a similar origin. While The Shadow has since been largely forgotten, Batman Begins also featured a somewhat similar origin (although Waye was self-absorbed, he was not really acquisitive)
Note that the film Doctor Mordrid was obviously based on Doctor Strange.
01:15, 28 May 2006 (UTC)~Enda80
[edit] Incivility
User:Rorschach567's incivility in calling any fellow editor, let alone someone as conscientious and dedicated as User:CovenantD, "a moron" is reprenensible behavior. I urge Rorschach567, with whom I have had a good-faith dealing, to please temper his tone; it just isn't necessary when there are so many other ways in the wonderfully elastic English language in which to make a point.
Also, WikiProject Comics style is to use the "fictional character" phrasing in intros, for consistency and other reasons. -- Tenebrae 13:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Quote for the above, per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/exemplars#Comic_book_characters:
The opening sentence is currently formatted as "{Name of character} ({birth name}) is a fictional (character/superhero/supervillain) in the [[Example Comics]] [[Example Universe]]. Created by {creator(s)}, he/she/they first appeared in {Name of series} #{issue number} ({year})."
-- Tenebrae 15:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Watoomb
One of his exclamations currently reads "By the Wondrous Winds of Watoomb!" I'll look this up, but does anyone know offhand whether this isn't supposed to be the Wand of Watoomb? -- Tenebrae 13:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Both are correct. "Watoomb" is the God of winds, his winds are used as either a supernatural transportation device or an attack. The Wand of Watoomb is a talisman that is used by lesser mages in which to gain access to Watoomb's power over wind. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.82.148.21 (talk • contribs) .
- Thanks! --Tenebrae 15:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Civil War Status
Unlike every other superhero, the government apparently wanted to seek a compromise with Dr Strange concerning the SRA rather than just saying "if you don't sign up, you're on the wanted list", as seen in Civil War #1 (Reed Richards tells Dr Strange this). Should that be noted in the small entry he has on his page? Sera404 02:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
