Talk:Doctor Octopus

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I removed the following from the article because I don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this in general. Bryan 08:14, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

• Name: Otto Octavius
• Height: 5'9"
• Weight: 190 lbs.
• Hair: Brown
• Eyes: Brown
  • Intelligence Level: Genius
  • Strength level: Normal
  • Strength Level of Harness: Superhuman Class 20 (can press 40,000 lbs.)
  • Endurance Level: Normal
  • Stamina Level: Normal
  • Speed: Normal
  • Speed Level of Harness: Superhuman
• Special Limitations: Dr. Octopus is near-sighted to the extent that he is legally blind without the aid of his eye-glasses. He suffers from neurosis.

Contents 1 Doctor Octopus' tentacles 2 Third Doctor Octopus??? 3 Inspired by Roy Orbison's Appearance 4 Dead and alive again 5 Doctor Octopus: Year One

[edit] Doctor Octopus' tentacles

This article says that the accident bonded the harness to his skin and nervous system so he is able to control it mentally. How is he able to control the arms before that? (User:Graham P.)

There was a control panel on the harness, as I recall. --Paul A 04:26, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Third Doctor Octopus???

I don't have the issues in front of me, but should we mention the new Doctor Octopus who tried to kill and replace the original in a recent Amazing Spider-Man by JMS a year or two back? --JRT 19:57, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dunno if it should be added or not, but here's a reference! [1] --El benito 20:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inspired by Roy Orbison's Appearance

Obviously Marvel Comics was influenced by Roy Orbison, who had a hit with "Pretty Woman" in the early 1960's when drawing the face, glasses and hairstyle of Doctor Octopus. Although younger readers might not be aware of who Roy Orbison was; older people can see the similar appearance. One website asks the question: "Roy Orbison and Doctor Octopus -- Seperated at Birth?" Of course it's a joke. Bennett Turk

Doc Ock is likely the most inconsistantly portrayed character in Spider-Man comics. Ditko/Romita saw him as a fat, ugly troll of a man with big glasses, pudding-bowl hair and an ugly green jumpsuit. Andru and others reinvented him as a svelte, cigar-smoking con man with sunglasses and tuxedos. John Byrne saw Ock as a man with bionic limbs who walked around wearing what appeared to be an ornamental Chinese dress and no pants. Humberto Ramos (the worst, in my opinion) saw Ock as a middle-aged man with long greasy hair, tinted sunglasses and leather jackets - Ozzy Osbourne with tentacles. It's really hard to believe they're all supposed to be the same person. I personally think that the main picture of this article should be the "fat ugly troll" version rather than the "Ozzy" version, but I guess it's not my place to say. Good call on Roy Orbison, though. 142.161.206.195 19:41, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

There. I put up a picture that I feel is the definitive Doc Ock look. Hope you like it! 142.161.204.111 17:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Even "I" like it. DocOck 19:03, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dead and alive again

Just like John Byrne reinvented the DC universe, where the adoptive parants of Superman were still alive, John Byrne reinvented much of the Marvel universe when he started to write Spider-Man stories in the 90's. And didn't he change the origin of Dr. Octopus and did some other changes in the early years of Spider-Man?

Yes, but it was considered a huge failure so Marvel no longer considers it in continuity.--CyberGhostface 19:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. Is this failure mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia or in any other articles? So far I havn't found anything about it. 193.217.195.151 17:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Its never been officially mentioned by Marvel, but the fan opinion was overwhelmingly negative so its never been referenced again. For a while the titles referenced the Chapter 1 origin as canon but now they refer to Stan Lee's classic one.--CyberGhostface 17:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, so it's just a part of the past Marvel wants to forget then. And with all the Ultimate titles, they no longer needs to reinvent Spider-Man or other characters in the original Marvel universe. (But still, in my opinion it should be mentioned, just so the fans knows what issues they shall ignore and which ones that are included in the continuity, just to avoid confusion. Especially if the reinvention effort includes more than the stories created by John Byrne and more titles than Sider-Man.) 193.217.194.254 00:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doctor Octopus: Year One

This article, when talking about how Doc Ock's origins and how he controls his actuators, goes into great detail about the original Lee/Ditko story. However, it says absolutely nothing concerning the retcon/retelling of his origin story in Spider-Man/Doctor Octopus: Year One (2004-2005). In that generally very well accepted - even praised by some - story, Octavius gains access to military funding to create "cyborg" technology to rival the powers of existing superheroes and supervillains. This culminates in a set of arms that was neurally-controlled from the start. The nuclear accident still happened; however, instead of granting him perfect neural control, it actually damaged the systems so that they acted on subconscious signals as opposed to conscious thought. Eventually, Octavius evidently learns how to regain total control of the arms, although it is never directly mentioned in the story.

As well, it also has a scene where Octavius nearly dies of radiation poisoning caused by the accident, but seems to be saved by it instead in a dream-like sequence where he seems to gain its power. The story also chronicles what seems to be an obsession with the atomic bomb from childhood, scattering in sequences where Octavius sees the people around him destroyed in an imagined nuclear blast. There are also a few other small changed details.

As far as I know, this retelling of Octavius's origins has not been discredited like some of the other retellings before it. At the very least, we should have some of the information this comic miniseries brought to light represented in the article along with the original Lee/Ditko story. -- Keith Davies Lehwald 01:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)